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Old 12-11-2006, 06:00 AM
sahaguje sahaguje is offline
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Default Re: 400plo, i have a big bottom wrap, but the board sucks...

you have enough fold equity to raise IMHO
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: 400plo, i have a big bottom wrap, but the board sucks...

More seriously, if you could be 100% sure you were against two sets without straight draws, you could call, but I do not think you can ever be certain of a thing like that.

edit : You also can call if you are a really vicious fellow with a strong read that your opponents will be on massive tilt if you draw out... I mean, you are probably a 4 to 1 underdog, but if you think one of your opponents will blow 4 or 5 buy-ins if you bust his TTJhQh, it can be fun.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:39 PM
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Why the hell would you lead flop, esp. with the large bet size.

As played, obv. fold.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:48 PM
skitzofranik skitzofranik is offline
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Default Re: 400plo, i have a big bottom wrap, but the board sucks...

as everyone said its an easy fold. If a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] comes youre pretty much assumed to be drawing dead here. To me your flop bet isnt nearly as bad as your pfr. Why would you raise that being first to act after the flop. I understand the value of the hand, but you have to hit a pretty optimal flop in order to profit off a hand like that from that position.

As played the flop bet serves as a decent c-bet to fold out weak hands but w/ a raise and a rr its time to let go (unless you hate money of course [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:43 PM
JP OSU JP OSU is offline
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To me your flop bet isnt nearly as bad as your pfr. Why would you raise that being first to act after the flop. I understand the value of the hand, but you have to hit a pretty optimal flop in order to profit off a hand like that from that position.



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I could not disagree more with this... This is a fine hand to raise w/ in any position in a 5 handed game... You should be raising a wide variety of hands, and this is one of them...
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