2p2er caught on vid #3

[Dan Bitel]

Villain in this hand is an unknown, and I'm hero. whats best here? lead (and try for b3b)? c/c? c/r?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $267.55
UTG+1: $195
CO: $200
Button: $63.80
SB: $204.30
Hero: $279

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($27, 3 players)

[gimmetheloot]

i like to get a little creative when stacks are this size. I prob b-c - c/r AI, hit or miss.

[Jocke_F]

I would go for b3b.

[thedustbustr]

if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

i dont like b3b, any hand that raises us is snap calling a push.

[gimmetheloot]

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

i dont like b3b, any hand that raises us is snap calling a push.

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I like to take this line on paired boards with a 9-Q on them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

scary [censored].

[monkeymaps]

Any reads on villian? I like to c/r here a good portion of the time and decide if I want to follow threw If I whiff turn. c/c and lead any turn is a weird line I might take here depending on the villian

[thedustbustr]

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

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also the good thing about this line is that if he checks behind on the turn you get a free card AND you might even have the best hand. i think this is an important effect of good check/raise lines - you go from a 'value check' to a semibluff on the same street.

[gimmetheloot]

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

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also the good thing about this line is that if he checks behind on the turn you get a free card AND you might even have the best hand. i think this is an important effect of good check/raise lines - you go from a 'value check' to a semibluff on the same street.

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lol @ quoting yourself

[thedustbustr]

... i had more to say on the subject.

[Paul Thomson]

the ONLY way our ace is good if it all gets in on the flop is if the villain has KK. so I don't like lead 3-bet.

I would check-call. check-fold.