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Old 11-30-2006, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: One that I didn\'t horribly botch, probably!

dare i say.....standard?
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: One that I didn\'t horribly botch, probably!

What exactly are we repping. Specifically an overpair that is ahead of his counterfitted J9? Thanks Sorry if this is basic
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:28 AM
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What exactly are we repping. Specifically an overpair that is ahead of his counterfitted J9? Thanks Sorry if this is basic

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An overpair, or boat.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:40 AM
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What exactly are we repping. Specifically an overpair that is ahead of his counterfitted J9? Thanks Sorry if this is basic

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Hero doesn't expect to get called here that often. Some players never c/r the flop without the goods but obviously doesn't think villian narrows his range as much as that. Also, with the fish in between it's quite common for villian to lead out the flop with a set (assuming the fish is weak with calls) rather than go for a c/r, especially as the c-bet is less likely with a calling station in the pot.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: One that I didn\'t horribly botch, probably!

who anyone disagree with pushing the flop if u can put vilian on an overpair?
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:43 PM
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who anyone disagree with pushing the flop if u can put vilian on an overpair?

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villian does not have an overpair here

this is good DJ obv pretty standard and we should have QQ + here quite a bit I can't see much of anything he can call with, I mean J9 is/was a real possib ility but even THAT might fold and the three makes it so much less likely he's got quads but thats really the only hand that has us beat and can call
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: One that I didn\'t horribly botch, probably!

I'm not that crazy over the turn, because I can't imagine villain folding anything here, I think your always getting called and almost always behind and sometimes dead. I mean the only hand he'd play like this and fold is j9
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:25 PM
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I can't imagine villain folding anything here

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Really??

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the only hand he'd play like this and fold is j9

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Especially 3 handed, his range for c/ring the flop is far wider than that, and should include at least AJ or so.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:30 AM
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Hero doesn't expect to get called here that often. Some players never c/r the flop without the goods but obviously doesn't think villian narrows his range as much as that. Also, with the fish in between it's quite common for villian to lead out the flop with a set (assuming the fish is weak with calls) rather than go for a c/r, especially as the c-bet is less likely with a calling station in the pot.

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The main villain who checkraises is the BB and the donk is the SB. Going for the c/r was villain's only hope of trapping dead money from the donk in the pot.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:36 AM
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Hero doesn't expect to get called here that often. Some players never c/r the flop without the goods but obviously doesn't think villian narrows his range as much as that. Also, with the fish in between it's quite common for villian to lead out the flop with a set (assuming the fish is weak with calls) rather than go for a c/r, especially as the c-bet is less likely with a calling station in the pot.

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The main villain who checkraises is the BB and the donk is the SB. Going for the c/r was villain's only hope of trapping dead money from the donk in the pot.

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Good point, I thought the SB and BB were the other way around. This makes it a little more likely that villian had a set I guess, but the point about expecting a c-bet less often remains.
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