Bots in PartyPoker's 6-max Limit games?

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A bot can only be as good as its programmer, right? So should we really care if there are bots? I assume I am better than the guy who programmed these bots. And know that I know these guys are bots, it will give me more of an advantage over them.

#1 I know they can't tilt
#2 I don't think they are able to adapt to game situations.They can't tell if someone who normally plays solid is on tilt. They can't manipulate a maniac into raising another opponent out etc.....
#3 I'm pretty sure they can't pull big moves. ie against a human player, if you have nothing and bet and get raised, you can three bet if you think your opponenet is also bluffing. I'm pretty sure that if a bot 3 or 4 bets you, he's not bluffing.

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A bot can only be as good as its programmer, right? So should we really care if there are bots? I assume I am better than the guy who programmed these bots. And know that I know these guys are bots, it will give me more of an advantage over them.

#1 I know they can't tilt
#2 I don't think they are able to adapt to game situations.They can't tell if someone who normally plays solid is on tilt. They can't manipulate a maniac into raising another opponent out etc.....
#3 I'm pretty sure they can't pull big moves. ie against a human player, if you have nothing and bet and get raised, you can three bet if you think your opponenet is also bluffing. I'm pretty sure that if a bot 3 or 4 bets you, he's not bluffing.

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Agreed. But I'm not sure I can beat them! Or at least, I couldn't. Been studying them carefully for the last day or so and working out some new plans.

One thing for certain, I'd rather there be fish sat in their places!

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A bot can only be as good as its programmer, right? So should we really care if there are bots? I assume I am better than the guy who programmed these bots. And know that I know these guys are bots, it will give me more of an advantage over them.

#1 I know they can't tilt
#2 I don't think they are able to adapt to game situations.They can't tell if someone who normally plays solid is on tilt. They can't manipulate a maniac into raising another opponent out etc.....
#3 I'm pretty sure they can't pull big moves. ie against a human player, if you have nothing and bet and get raised, you can three bet if you think your opponenet is also bluffing. I'm pretty sure that if a bot 3 or 4 bets you, he's not bluffing.

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Agreed. But I'm not sure I can beat them! Or at least, I couldn't. Been studying them carefully for the last day or so and working out some new plans.

One thing for certain, I'd rather there be fish sat in their places!

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That's for sure......I'm interested in knowing how I'm doing against them. How did u pull up your stats for those select opponents?Is there a way on PT to select 20 or so opponents and just see their stats?

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I assigned them all a new icon called 'CHEATS' haha.

Then on 'Preferences' tab I just selected that icon. Might take you 15 mins or so but please post your results.

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I assigned them all a new icon called 'CHEATS' haha.

Then on 'Preferences' tab I just selected that icon. Might take you 15 mins or so but please post your results.

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Next Question: How do u assign them new icons? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I think you can add express_mail to that list as well.

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Here's one. 2 of the 'bots sat together'. Both have almost identical stats across the board.
BUT eventually 'they' started talking when I mentioned 'Bots' on the table. Both have NEVER talked before and I have spoke to them many times. A few choice comments followed but hey, the guy could easily have sat down after being made aware of the fuss from 2plus2.

Anyway, I called this hand to see if they would collude against me. Make of it what you will:-

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(Starway)/ raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB :#A500AF(express_mail)/ 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(Starway)/ caps</font>, SB :#A500AF(express_mail)/ calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
express_mail checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Starway bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">express_mail raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Starway 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">express_mail caps</font>, Hero calls, Starway calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
express_mail checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Starway bets</font>, express_mail folds, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Starway calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 5c 7c (straight, eight high).
Starway has 8c 8d (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 16 BB. </font>

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I assigned them all a new icon called 'CHEATS' haha.

Then on 'Preferences' tab I just selected that icon. Might take you 15 mins or so but please post your results.

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Apparently I can't beat them either [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I lost a total of $2375 to them over 5400 hands. I am twice as bad as you plus I don't know how to upload my stats.

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Now you see why I'm getting into this. If you imagine those guys being replaced with guys you CAN beat, you will see fairly nice addition to the green figures [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Press ALT and PrtSC to 'copy' the window of stats. Then 'Paste' it into the Paint program that comes with windows. Save that as a JPEG and then host it on Imageshack.us

Thats what I do anyway.

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Express_mail now sat next to Flying_Spur. Anything similar here?