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Old 11-03-2006, 12:49 PM
Easy17 Easy17 is offline
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Preflop raise size makes a huge difference.

My experience has been 120 raise (5x BB) just starting off is simply too small relative to starting stacks on Stars, and gets lots of callers with Ax suited, other draws etc. This is exactly what you do not want (with KK). As you played this hand you are around 35% to win, and will have a hard time folding your kings post flop.

I have found that raises of 175-250 will isolate down to 1 caller much more effectively, although it seems like an additional 55 chips shouldnt matter it does.

As far as my alternate strategy of min raise (to 40, from EP or MP) then pushing any reraise, I have had success with this. What will happen is I get 2-3 callers at 40 behind, then AQ,AK,99-QQ in LP will pop in a big raise hoping to steal all the min-limps or double up early. I push over the top and am a 70-30 favorite to stack him, and take the limpers chips as well. This is not my standard play however, just for mixing it up early in a tournament. Normally I raise as I said 150-250.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:54 PM
Jeff76 Jeff76 is offline
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As far as my alternate strategy of min raise (to 40, from EP or MP) then pushing any reraise, I have had success with this.

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It is not good to proclaim your hand (a min raise is almost always AA/kk) and giving speculative hands no-brainer odds to call.
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Old 11-03-2006, 02:32 PM
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Normally I raise as I said 150-250.

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Like I said earlier, who is calling 150 that isn't calling 120? 4xBB + 1BB for every limper is standard (6xBB in this situation) and going away from your standard raises gives away your hand. If you make the same raise w/ 67s as you do w/ AA or KK you will make opponents make harder postflop decisions because they have less info. I understand pumping up the pot and thinning the field, but we don't want to drive all hands that we destroy out of the hand either. This is especially true if you are confident in your post flop play.
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