Official November thread: General Discussion, Goals, Winrates, etc

[Josh.]

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$1/hand is probably a good goal for most MSNL ballas.

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$1/hand is more or less unattainable for all but the elite MSNL players. how many people really make 8.33 ptbb at 3/6 or 5 ptbb at 5/10? i think most people have a tendency to look at their best month or best 30k hand stretch or whatever and assume that's their winrate. looking at that big db opened my eyes to this. so many of the 3/6 and 5/10 regulars on party winning 20 cents a hand taking pretty big variance when they could be winning that much with no variance at 200NL. bbv has glorified the idea of moving up as fast as possible, or whenever you have x buyins, rather than when you're ready. i think we're going to see a lot of peoples' egos cause them to get buried with these new, tougher games when they can't admit to themselves that they're marginal winners, and wind up getting swallowed by the inevitable 40 buyin downswings that we're going to start seeing, even at midstakes. just like all those 1000+ BB downsiwngs we've been seeing from limit players

this is obviously not directed at you. i've always admired your willingness to move up and down depending on how you're playign and running. it's just the idea that these types of winrates are commonplace. it's none of my business what other peoples' goals are, but i find it's a lot easier to cope with losing and running bad when i'm actually honest with myself about how i'm playing and what my actual expectation is

[axioma]

im not sure that 5ptbb/100 at 5/10 is that unreasonable josh.

[Josh.]

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im not sure that 5ptbb/100 at 5/10 is that unreasonable josh.

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it's not unreasonable but very few people actually did it

[Oy Vey]

own up $400nl at full tilt like last month except play 3x as much [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

watch out ftp donkeys :P

[john kane]

edit: changed my mind.

[ahnuld]

Josh.,

sup. 30k in 30k hands again. Last month I ddint get in more than 20k hands so this will be a challenge.

[Josh.]

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Josh.,

sup. 30k in 30k hands again. Last month I ddint get in more than 20k hands so this will be a challenge.

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not sure the reason for the sup, but from your posts i'd guess you're one of those elite MSNLers i was referring to. most of us are not. i hope people don't take my post the wrong way. i'm not hating. i just saw so many people get buried when the limit games started dryign up and i hope it doesn't happen here.

[Parlay Slow]

josh is very wise

[J. Sawyer]

50,000 hands

move up to 3/6

win $25k at all limits.

[ahnuld]

yeah, thats what I was alluding to. I know you meant well by your comment. Its really hard to mantain over 1$ per hand even at 1000nl, I was really just bragin