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Old 11-15-2005, 10:30 PM
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Hi Mark:

I don't disagree with anything you say. All I did was try to show that there is a strategy available to Player A who holds the ace-queen suited that is a profitable strategy. This doesn't mean that there aren't other such strategies available.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:33 PM
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Hi excession:

So what? You may be right on every count. Again, all I did was attempt to show that there is a strategy available to Player A who holds the ace-queen suited that can show a profit in this situation.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:37 PM
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Hi psuasskicker:

This is a very good way to analyze many statistical situations. When I worked for Northrop, and we were interested in blowing up the Soviet Union, I used similar techniques many times, and we weren't concerned with no limit poker, but we were concerned with real no limit.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:40 PM
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Hi WorstPlayer:

You may not play as bad as you think. To be more specific, when solving statistical problems that are often too difficult to solve, you can sometimes solve a simpler one, and then draw reasonable inferences about the much more difficult problem.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:44 PM
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No. I'm not advocating any strategy. All I'm trying to do is to show that a strategy exists for Player A who holds the ace-queen suited that will produce a positive expectation.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:47 PM
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No. You need to consider how much on average Player B who holds the pair of jacks is also putting in the pot.

Now it is possible in many poker situations for more than one hand to have positive expectation due to other monies in the pot. But there isn't much of that here. However, that's not my point and I won't make any effort to defend it.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:50 PM
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Also its not really fair to make the JJ lose money when the A or Q flops but not make the AQ lose more money when the third J shows

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Hi slong:

I never said this was fair. All I said was this is the strategy to be employed.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:54 PM
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Hi slong:

I'll let others explain the problems with your equation.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:56 PM
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Your comments about the better player taking the pot away are addressed in my analysis.

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:59 PM
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Hi Imperial:

I never broke the hand down at all. As I state in one of the posts above, I analyzed a more simple problem and then made inferences about the more complex problem.

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