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Old 10-30-2006, 07:18 PM
Hince Hince is offline
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

I play it the same. I tend to give credit to 3-bets against unknowns.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

I usually check/call in these overpair situations all day and reevaluate turn
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

With no reads this is what I will do as well.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

Another option is to c/c this flop. Most times c/f turn.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

i dont see what bet folding rly does. I used to do it a lot. I guess it stops us being 2 barrelled off the best hand. I guess adds some protection. But it rly loses a bit of value i feel
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

I prefer c/r or c/c
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

You check call and turn is a blank. Now you are playing for stacks.

It does greatly devalue your hand to bet the flop, but how much are you making from a worse hand here (probably AK) anyway?
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

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You check call and turn is a blank. Now you are playing for stacks.

It does greatly devalue your hand to bet the flop, but how much are you making from a worse hand here (probably AK) anyway?

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Not true. I find that AK will rarely double barrel here in these spots. So the action will usually go c/c on the turn if he has AQ/AK. I'm not too concerned w. him hitting his 6 outer. I think we will usually be able to check it down (sometimes c/c river) most times if he has missed overs.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
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You check call and turn is a blank. Now you are playing for stacks.

It does greatly devalue your hand to bet the flop, but how much are you making from a worse hand here (probably AK) anyway?

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Villain is a fairly snug reg...

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $408.30
UTG+1: $416
CO: $464
Button: $432.35
SB: $72.60
BB: $1216.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $52</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($110, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $75</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($260, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $289</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $281.3</font>.
Uncalled bets: $7.7 returned to UTG+1.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($822.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $822.6)


Results:
Final pot: $822.6
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Qd Qc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 mucks Ad Kd</font>

Paul
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Very simple QQ checkup

That's a bit different though Paul. My villian is a complete unknown.
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