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Old 10-27-2006, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

reference: john murphy (might have butchered his name, it's been a while since i watched the video) vs Josh Arieh, WSOP 2004.
had murphy checked, he would have probably stacked arieh. check-raise>lead
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

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reference: john murphy (might have butchered his name, it's been a while since i watched the video) vs Josh Arieh, WSOP 2004.
had murphy checked, he would have probably stacked arieh. check-raise>lead

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what are the details of the hand?
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

Don't remember exactly but Murphy had a set and was playing it somewhat passively. Arieh made a flush on the river. Murphy led with a big bet. Arieh thought for a pretty long time said something like I can't believe I'm folding this hand and then he folded.

That was a tournament though of course.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

murphy made a fullhouse and bet out big, arieh folded his flush, but in a case when you put your opponent on a draw that hits but also gives you a better hand, i prefer checking to him when you know he'll bet so you can raise compared to leading and maybe only getting that one bet. i dont think villain is EVEr checking behind hear except super-weak aces
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

I'm not sure of preflop action. Murphy flopped bottom set on a 2 heart board, Arieh had Kxhh. Murphy bet and Arieh called. Turn was a blank. Murphy bet and Arieh called. River was a heart but paired the board. Murphy moved in and Arieh folded.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

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reference: john murphy (might have butchered his name, it's been a while since i watched the video) vs Josh Arieh, WSOP 2004.
had murphy checked, he would have probably stacked arieh. check-raise>lead

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looooooooooooooool at this logic
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

its an example im not the first person to use one
i mentioned it because it illustrates what i had already mentioned
the c-r>lead at the end is a joke, obviously it's not that cut and dry but i still prefer check-raise
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice

The only street that is played ok is pre-flop. Lead the flop, you have a monster hand with deep stacks you need to build the pot and protect against draws. Lead the turn, same reason. Lead the river, villain seems pretty passive he's likely checking behind alot.

OP, you got the $$ only because your opponent is mentally defective.
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