Funky river decision

[the machine]

what do you mean giving him a free card. this turn bet is spew. by checking we keep the pot size manageable and we wont be put to this decision on the river. a turn bet folds out hands you beat and hands you are losing to come along for the ride

[Vammakala]

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what do you mean giving him a free card. this turn bet is spew. by checking we keep the pot size manageable and we wont be put to this decision on the river. a turn bet folds out hands you beat and hands you are losing to come along for the ride

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Well when I posted pretty much exactly the same kind of hand here, where I had AA, the general line was that I should bet. In this hand, I'm stronger than AA (didn't have FD there). I think the hand was pretty closely to identical except for what I was holding.

Nice to see dividing opinions about this. Since it's divided, let's add a poll here

[the machine]

make a poll that says should i bet the turn. thats where the real question should be

[nofutures]

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make a poll that says should i bet the turn. thats where the real question should be

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No please don't bet the turn and let all the draws get their for free.

[the machine]

a draw just got there!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Gravy]

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what do you mean giving him a free card. this turn bet is spew. by checking we keep the pot size manageable and we wont be put to this decision on the river. a turn bet folds out hands you beat and hands you are losing to come along for the ride


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When you check the turn behind and the river is the x of diamonds, and BB pots it, what do you do?

I think this turn is a bad spot to check behind for pot control. You have top two on a drawy board, bet it.

[the machine]

look at flop action. villain check called which is possibly a FD. im not saying to put him exactly on that hand. but say we do check behind and villain pots it on the river that is a diamond. we can call since the bet will only be 4$.

yeah we have top two on a board that has likely completed a possible draw.

what happens when we bet the turn and villain POTS A NON DIAMOND RIVER?????

turn is an easy check


edit: i think i confused pot size with another hand and the turn would be 11$ here so PSB is 11 on the river if we check and he pots it.

and i still think we check this turn

[gumpzilla]

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what happens when we bet the turn and villain POTS A NON DIAMOND RIVER?????

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Then you can consider FOLDING.

I think a turn bet here is fine. People are going to be calling the flop with all kinds of junk and a backdoor diamond draw is definitely conceivable. And I think there are too many things that call us on the turn to give up the value here.

On the river, I'm guessing that you've run into either a flush or something mildly zany, like A6. Could be a poorly played set or worse two pair, too. I think this is very close, but I would probably call here.

[the machine]

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what happens when we bet the turn and villain POTS A NON DIAMOND RIVER?????

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Then you can consider FOLDING.

I think a turn bet here is fine. People are going to be calling the flop with all kinds of junk and a backdoor diamond draw is definitely conceivable. And I think there are too many things that call us on the turn to give up the value here.

On the river, I'm guessing that you've run into either a flush or something mildly zany, like A6. Could be a poorly played set or worse two pair, too. I think this is very close, but I would probably call here.

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if we were to consider folding here then if we check the turn and he pots river we can call for nearly the same price we were going to bet on the turn while still keeping the pot manageable with what may be the best hand