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Old 10-09-2006, 05:19 PM
kipin kipin is offline
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Kipin, it's not me who needs a lawyer, it's double a tom.

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Ok, you are right. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:23 PM
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The part where you had Everclear and then turned down a drink because you didn't want to drive drunk is kinda silly.

A good rule of thumb would be "once Everclear is involved you aren't going anyway".
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:27 PM
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dids, i think he spiked the punch with everclear. which is slightly different than just doing everclear shots or whatnot.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:30 PM
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GTL,

Sure, but when you're working with the mentality that says "hmm, this punch is too weak, let me find the strongest alcohol possible and make it stronger, by the way this is like my 4th drink" I just don't see how you end up at "no thanks, I'm driving someplace else".
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:43 PM
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GTL,

Sure, but when you're working with the mentality that says "hmm, this punch is too weak, let me find the strongest alcohol possible and make it stronger, by the way this is like my 4th drink" I just don't see how you end up at "no thanks, I'm driving someplace else".

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No drunk driving story starts with "Well I was going out to get drunk and the only mode of transportation I was gonna use is my car". Drunk driving stories always end with I stopped drinking to sober up and was just over the limit, or I had a bunch of drinks that caught up with me later, or I wasn't planning on driving but X happened so I had to.

My point is most of the people who go out drunk driving knew they would be drinking and driving beforehand. They knew they were taking their car and that they would be drinking. I have no doubt that probably 60% of the stories listed above this is what happened.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:27 PM
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GTL,

Sure, but when you're working with the mentality that says "hmm, this punch is too weak, let me find the strongest alcohol possible and make it stronger, by the way this is like my 4th drink" I just don't see how you end up at "no thanks, I'm driving someplace else".

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No drunk driving story starts with "Well I was going out to get drunk and the only mode of transportation I was gonna use is my car". Drunk driving stories always end with I stopped drinking to sober up and was just over the limit, or I had a bunch of drinks that caught up with me later, or I wasn't planning on driving but X happened so I had to.

My point is most of the people who go out drunk driving knew they would be drinking and driving beforehand. They knew they were taking their car and that they would be drinking. I have no doubt that probably 60% of the stories listed above this is what happened.

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My DD story starts with "Well I was going out to get drunk and the only mode of transportation I was gonna use is my car." Given that I was a cocky 19 at the time and all of my friends were doing the same, I didn't see a problem. Looking back now, I see that I was an idiot and am lucky to be alive after some of the stuff I did.



Double A Tom:

From someone who has been there, get a lawyer, I'm pretty much positive mine was worth it. He can get you a pretty decent reduction in the fine you pay and the charges you face, different charges have different mandatory punishments, you know. Mine was in MA so that might make a difference, but I'm pretty sure the lawyer will help.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:41 PM
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I am a prosecutor and I mostly prosecute OWIs. Here's my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.

As far as a lawyer goes, there are MAJOR differences in lawyers who handle OWIs. Almost all of the lawyers I deal with see OWI cases as easy money. They take your money and get a plea agreement. I can't speak for every prosecutor, but I will give the same deal to a person who represents themselves on a standard OWI.

There are attorneys who specialize in OWI cases. They are very expensive, but if you want to fight it, I would suggest you find someone who specializes in OWI cases.

All attorneys will look for ways to suppress evidence, but if there is something really obviously wrong with the case, most prosecutors won't file it in the first place.

OP, either you weren't as drunk as you thought or the officer who pulled you over didn't know what he was doing. The "eye test," a/k/a the horizontal gaze nystagmus, is the most reliable field sobriety test. You can't control the "jerkiness" of your eyes when you are under the influence of alcohol.

You can pass the other tests, with enough practice. Try them the next time you're drunk.

Finally, those of you who are saying you passed the tests, it is very likely you didn't. Most drunk people I prosecute think they passed the tests. There are certain clues the officer is looking for and most people have no idea what they are. Officers generally don't tell you how you are doing on the field sobriety tests.

Sorry so long, just wanted to clarify some of the points.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:50 PM
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Dids, I'm not trying to excuse my own behavior, what I did was foolish. Also, the punch sucked.
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