Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.

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What's anarchocapitalism?

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I'm not sure, but this is what an anarcho-syndicalist commune is

Arthur: Old woman!
Dennis: MAN!
Arthur: Man, sorry. What knight lives in that castle over there?
Dennis: I'm 37.
Arthur: What?
Dennis: I'm 37! I'm not old!
Arthur: Well, I can't just call you "man".
Dennis: You could say "Dennis".
Arthur: I didn't know you were called Dennis.
Dennis: Well you didn't bother to find out, did you?
Arthur: I did say I'm sorry about the "old woman", but from behind you looked...
Dennis: What I object to is you automatically treatin' me like an inferior.
Arthur: Well, I am king.
Dennis: Oh, king, eh - very nice. And how'd you get that, then? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going to be any progress...
Dennis' Mother: Dennis, Dennis! There's some lovely filth down here. Oh, how'd you do?
Arthur: How'd you do good lady? I am Arthur, king of the Britons. Whose castle is that?
Dennis' Mother: King of the who?
Arthur: The Britons.
Dennis' Mother: Who are the Britons?
Arthur: We all are. We are all Britons, and I am your king.
Dennis' Mother: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
Dennis: You're foolin' yourself. We're living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class...
Dennis' Mother: Oh there you go bringing class into it again!
Dennis: But that's what it's all about! If only people would realise...
Arthur: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?
Dennis' Mother: No one lives there.
Arthur: Then who is your lord?
Dennis' Mother: We don't have a lord.
Arthur: What?!
Dennis: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as sort of supreme executive officer for the week.
Arthur: Yes.
Dennis: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting...
Arthur: Yes, I see.
Dennis:...by a simple majority. In the case of purely internal affairs...
Arthur: Be quiet.
Dennis:...require two thirds majority. In the case of old ladys...
Arthur: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
Dennis' Mother: Order, eh? Who does he think he is?
Arthur: I am your king!
Dennis' Mother: Well, I didn't vote for you.
Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Dennis' Mother: Well, how'd you become King, then?
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake,... [Angel chorus begins singing in background] her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [Angel chorus ends] That is why I am your king!
Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Arthur: Be quiet!
Dennis: But you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Arthur: Shut up!
Dennis: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
Arthur: Shut up, will you? Shut up! [Grabs Dennis and shakes him]
Dennis: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Arthur: Shut up!
Dennis: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
Arthur: Bloody peasant!
Dennis: Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?

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That post made me happy at work.
I googled anarchocapitalism and the best I could figure out is that the marketplace takes over the functions of government.
That would be really terrifying. I don't understand how anyone would think this is a good idea.
Although it reminds me of No Escape

And what's the quote about capitalism and the interstate?

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Wikipedia article on Anarcho-Capitalism

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That's insane.

Borodog, aren't you a graduate student in the sciences? Where the hell does Universities and funded research come into this?

[Borodog]

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What's anarchocapitalism?

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That's insane.

Borodog, aren't you a graduate student in the sciences? Where the hell does Universities and funded research come into this?

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I have a Ph.D. in physics, specifically, astrophysics. I was an assistant professor at a state university and an instructor at a state-funded magnet school for science and mathematics. As my personal philosophy turned more and more libertarian and finally anarcho-capitalist, I realized such jobs were immoral, and I quit. I'm now in real estate.

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That's insane.

Borodog, aren't you a graduate student in the sciences? Where the hell does Universities and funded research come into this?

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I have a Ph.D. in physics, specifically, astrophysics. I was an assistant professor at a state university and an instructor at a state-funded magnet school for science and mathematics. As my personal philosophy turned more and more libertarian and finally anarcho-capitalist, I realized such jobs were immoral, and I quit. I'm now in real estate.

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Out of curiosity, what did you find immoral about it? I'm a professor in the neurosciences and I love it and can't figure out what's immoral about it.
I got confused. The other guy in the randomness thread was the grad student.

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I have a Ph.D. in physics, specifically, astrophysics. I was an assistant professor at a state university and an instructor at a state-funded magnet school for science and mathematics. As my personal philosophy turned more and more libertarian and finally anarcho-capitalist, I realized such jobs were immoral, and I quit. I'm now in real estate.

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Out of curiosity, what did you find immoral about it? I'm a professor in the neurosciences and I love it and can't figure out what's immoral about it.

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If you are paid with taxpayer dollars, money that has been confiscated from individuals who could have used it to send their kids to a better school, take their family on a vacation, buy a new car, invest for their retirement, or blow on coke and hookers, it is immoral, in my humble opinion. Perhaps it was easier for me to come to this conclusion given that my field (astrophysics) is so esoteric, rather than something than can demonstrably help people, like neuroscience. I love my field, too. I really, really love it. I miss it every day. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] But that doesn't give me the right to rob people so I can sit around and simulate accretion disks on supercomputers.

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I have a Ph.D. in physics, specifically, astrophysics. I was an assistant professor at a state university and an instructor at a state-funded magnet school for science and mathematics. As my personal philosophy turned more and more libertarian and finally anarcho-capitalist, I realized such jobs were immoral, and I quit. I'm now in real estate.

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Out of curiosity, what did you find immoral about it? I'm a professor in the neurosciences and I love it and can't figure out what's immoral about it.

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If you are paid with taxpayer dollars, money that has been confiscated from individuals who could have used it to send their kids to a better school, take their family on a vacation, buy a new car, invest for their retirement, or blow on coke and hookers, it is immoral, in my humble opinion. Perhaps it was easier for me to come to this conclusion given that my field (astrophysics) is so esoteric, rather than something than can demonstrably help people, like neuroscience. I love my field, too. I really, really love it. I miss it every day. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] But that doesn't give me the right to rob people so I can sit around and simulate accretion disks on supercomputers.

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I don't understand how the money has been "confiscated" from the people or that you robbed them. Why didn't they send their kids to a different school? If they couldn't afford it does their kid not deserve an education? Is your idea that there should be no affordable universities? And how do you see it that it would be better for them to buy themselves a new car than invest in their child's future?
I'm very confused.
Did you just snap one day from thinking about astrophysics too much?

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I don't understand how the money has been "confiscated" from the people or that you robbed them.

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Taxation is theft.

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Why didn't they send their kids to a different school?

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Because the money they would have used to do that was confiscated in the form of taxes perhaps?

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If they couldn't afford it does their kid not deserve an education?

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To quote a famous libertarian, deserves got nothin' to do with it. I certainly know they could have afforded to send their kid to a better school if half of their income wasn't confiscated.

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Is your idea that there should be no affordable universities?

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No. Where did you get this from? Certainly nothing that I wrote.

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And how do you see it that it would be better for them to buy themselves a new car than invest in their child's future?

I'm very confused.

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Yes, you seem to be. I didn't say it would be better to buy a new car rather than invest in their child's education. I said that their capacity to do either has been involuntarily diminished, through taxation, so that I could sit around and simulate accretion disks. I realized this was immoral, and quit.

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Did you just snap one day from thinking about astrophysics too much?

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No, I snapped slowly after thinking about government too much.

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I don't understand how the money has been "confiscated" from the people or that you robbed them.

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Taxation is theft.

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Why didn't they send their kids to a different school?

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Because the money they would have used to do that was confiscated in the form of taxes perhaps?

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If they couldn't afford it does their kid not deserve an education?

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To quote a famous libertarian, deserves got nothin' to do with it. I certainly know they could have afforded to send their kid to a better school if half of their income wasn't confiscated.

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Is your idea that there should be no affordable universities?

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No. Where did you get this from? Certainly nothing that I wrote.

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And how do you see it that it would be better for them to buy themselves a new car than invest in their child's future?

I'm very confused.

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Yes, you seem to be. I didn't say it would be better to buy a new car rather than invest in their child's education. I said that their capacity to do either has been involuntarily diminished, through taxation, so that I could sit around and simulate accretion disks. I realized this was immoral, and quit.

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Did you just snap one day from thinking about astrophysics too much?

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No, I snapped slowly after thinking about government too much.

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Well, considering I'm funded by the NIH and NSF I friggin' love taxes and bureaucracy. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
So there should be no basic science then? Or interstates? etc.

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Well, considering I'm funded by the NIH and NSF I friggin' love taxes and bureaucracy.

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I can certainly understand this point of view.

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So there should be no basic science then? Or interstates? etc.

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Did I say that?

You are suffering from the all to common belief that if something currently done by the government were not done by the government, it would go undone. I used to suffer from the same misconception, until I actually started doing some research. Suffice it to say that I have never encountered a service provided by government that both a) could be provided for better (i.e. at higher quality and lower cost with more choice) by government than the free market and b) should be provided. The only things that I've ever found that government can provide for better than the free market are massacres, genocides, concentration camps, mass graves, and similar public goods.