Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Other Poker > Omaha High

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-27-2006, 03:48 AM
dibbs dibbs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 3,203
Default How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

Low limit PLO. all opponents have 100 bbs. Some real weak loose spots in the game lots of calling not a lot of aggression. 4 Limpers, I call on button with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. blinds complete.

Flop (7 bbs) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG position player pots it, two more players call and it's on me. UTG is loose bad from the very small time I've spent with him.

How you guys play this?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-27-2006, 11:35 AM
Spellmen Spellmen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: State College, PA
Posts: 2,749
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

Repot and hope to knock out draws that are splitting with you.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-27-2006, 01:46 PM
joewatch joewatch is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,308
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

Although this is a nice draw, the flush is not to the nuts, so I would consider them blockers, not draws. The fact that there were betters/callers means there is likely to be blockers to your wrap, giving you worse odds than you think. I would flat call and see what the turn brings.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-27-2006, 02:17 PM
Chimichonga Chimichonga is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: folding flops
Posts: 872
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

Some of your outs are definitely dead or counterfieted. Raising here negates your positional advantage. Folding is weak. I like calling here, with position.

If the board pairs, you can easily get away. If a heart falls, you can easily get away. If a straigtening card falls, you may be able to get it all-in with a nice freeroll. If a brick falls, you will probably still have odds to call heads-up against a pot size bet, though if it stays multiway, you will want to be careful.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-28-2006, 12:02 AM
wheatrich wheatrich is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: [censored] All limit poker forms
Posts: 798
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

I have to just call here. If it wasn't two callers I'd jam this so fast though.

They're not going to fold if the pot gets big enough with two cards to come so the flush draw is dead as is some parts of the straight draw.

If you catch the nut straight on the turn push (obviously not if it's a heart).
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-28-2006, 12:38 PM
omaha91 omaha91 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 11
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

I raise here to get rid of higher flush draw.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-30-2006, 01:25 AM
dibbs dibbs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 3,203
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

Thanks for the thoughts gentlemen.

Interesting mix between pot it up and call and see a turn. After lots of thought I'm thinking call and see a turn is best, as all those calls means my outs are much thinner than usual. I could be wrong though. If it was headsup I like raise though, you all agree?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-30-2006, 11:30 AM
RickyG RickyG is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Starting over from scratch
Posts: 1,344
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

I am surprised that no one is suggesting raising less than pot. this gives the original reraiser a chance to repot it again with 56 and giving people with outs to chop with you, or better flush draws, more incentive to fold. This may be a spot that I might consider a minraise, just to allow the original raiser to reraise. If he doesnt reraise, it's unlikely that the two callers were slowplaying and will raise you, and this allows you to put more money in the pot when you hit on the turn, and may get you a freecard when the OB tries to checkraise or check/call the turn. The downside is that sometimes the OB will call the minraise and bet out the turn making it more expensive for you to draw, but against loose low limit players, this may work well.

Any opinions?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-30-2006, 11:42 AM
Tilt Tilt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Omaha
Posts: 1,733
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

I raise here. Worst case is you end up in a 3 or 4 way with only live straight outs. Thats not great, but its not terrible. Best case is you end up all in HU with a weak straight/no redraw.

I can see calling with position but I think you want to knock out the higher flush draws with a raise. Calling and folding any paired board on the turn is a little weak IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-30-2006, 11:58 AM
Bogglor Bogglor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 95
Default Re: How you play this straight draws and flush blockers on button?

With 3 opponents in the pot, I wouldn't call folding to a paired turn card weak. I'd call it sensible. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.