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10-05-2006, 05:51 AM
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Re: How Many Senators Would Have Voted Otherwise?
Why is this important? What's important is that we move on and try to figure out a solution to this whole thing, not think what coulda been and was.
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10-05-2006, 06:05 AM
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Re: How Many Senators Would Have Voted Otherwise?
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Why is this important? [/ QUOTE ] 1. Because as a standalone it would help identify those politians that poker players could try to vote out of office. 2. By the deceptive practice it aids politians in obsfucating issues to help divide the American people and make it harder for the people to realize how the Government intrudes on individual freedoms. 3. This is only one issue of many that has eroded your individual rights over your lifetime.
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10-05-2006, 06:17 AM
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Re: How Many Senators Would Have Voted Otherwise?
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[ QUOTE ] Why is this important? [/ QUOTE ] 1. Because as a standalone it would help identify those politians that poker players could try to vote out of office. 2. By the deceptive practice it aids politians in obsfucating issues to help divide the American people and make it harder for the people to realize how the Government intrudes on individual freedoms. 3. This is only one issue of many that has eroded your individual rights over your lifetime. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but none of that matters. The system works the way it works and can't be changed. We have to work the system, not spout off "its aint right", because no one cares that it isn't right. We have to put an effective lobby in place, it has to be the player's lobby, not the sites. We need a leader. Of course, none of the management here is going to step up so we better start looking elsewhere. The solution is simple, as players, we go to the Congress, hat in hand, and ask them to regulate the industry for our protection. Dang, this ain't rocket science. I thought you guys were expert thinkers.
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10-05-2006, 12:25 PM
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Re: How Many Senators Would Have Voted Otherwise?
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We need a leader. Of course, none of the management here is going to step up so we better start looking elsewhere. [/ QUOTE ] The management here, as far as I can tell, make their living as authors, publishers, consultants to b&m casinos, and b&m poker players. How does that make them the voice of online poker?
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10-05-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: How Many Senators Would Have Voted Otherwise?
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[ QUOTE ] It would have passed but a larger number of Democrats & Republicans would have voted against it. [/ QUOTE ] Fixed. [/ QUOTE ] Fixed? The sentence doesn't even make sense anymore. I suspect the bill would have passed on its own, if it came to a vote, but then I'm mainly basing that opinion on the House vote and also Berge's opinion that it would have passed (he knows a lot more about our current Senate than I do). I also suspect more Democrats than Republicans would have voted against it. Throw philosophy out the window and say each Senator is equally likely to support or oppose the bill (for whatever reasons), and it's still the case that politicians sometimes vote along partisan lines, and the bill would have been Republican-sponsored legislation. In any event, I agree with those who are saying that our best hope was for the bill not to have been enough of a priority to come up for a vote.
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10-05-2006, 06:24 AM
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Re: How Many Senators Would Have Voted Otherwise?
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Why is this important? What's important is that we move on and try to figure out a solution to this whole thing, not think what coulda been and was. [/ QUOTE ] Its important as it will show how large the task is to get this reversed. Its is hard enough to get anything through that is pro gambling, even in the UK where they were trying to be sensible the plans were scaled back under press/anti gambling lobby pressure, where everyone has the will to get it done. I suspect this has been a big wakeup call to a lot of younger US people who hadnt realised what their government is like at the moment and the worrying trend a lot of the policies have over there, as well as the way the US acts to the rest of the world. However most of this is probably more for the politics forum. One of the interesting things about this has been the reaction after the event, a lot of pissed off players who did nothing while the horse was getting loose and has now bolted. But seem to want forign based companies and politicians to catch the horse, bring it back and fix the door for them. Its a lesson folks you need to protect your rights and get involved as soon as any potential threat to your liberties comes along.
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