Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.

[vulturesrow]

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It was snide, since you seem to be 100% sure that anarchocapitalism is the way to go but you are not providing any thoughtful reasoning or empirical evidence for that; and you seem to think those who disagree with you are less intelligent/ cunning than you.

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I'm 100% sure it was snide because you're a jerk. But be that as it may, I didn't start a thread to debate the merits of anarchocapitalism. I simply asked if there were any lurking around. Of course I think anarchocapitalism is the way to go, or else I wouldn't be an anarchocapitalist. But again . . . I didn't start a thread to proselytize or debate anarchocapitalism. I just asked if any where around. You, in your infinite superiority, couldn't let this opporunity for a sarcastic remark slide past, and posted your link to Somalia, implying that Somalia was somehow an example of anarchocapitalism. I didn't imply anyone was less intelligent or "cunning" than myself, except perhaps the guy who doesn't know what capitalism is (I'm still waiting for his treatise). All I pointed out was that the wreckage left over after a government runs itself into the ground is not an example of anarchocapitalism. And rather than just conceding this simple and rather obvious point [or rebutt it], you come up with a snide remark.

So spare me the moral high ground attitude about who believes they are more intelligent and or cunning.

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Many AC believers cite Somalia of an example of working AC. That said, PVN is a fellow traveller of yours. Can everyone just STFU now?

[LargeCents]

anarchocapitalists?!

Is this thread dedicated to making up words without making up a meaning?

Here's mine: thisthreadisreallystupid

[Borodog]

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People being as defensive [as] you usually don't have much to back up their statement[s].

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What a brilliant generalization. Again, who is it that has the superiority complex?

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I was not posting Somalia as a snide remark, I was posting it to show you how extreme anarchocapitalism turns out. A lot of creative, innovative business models, but a complete lack of [infrastructure ?] i.e. road building and a lack of investment capital.

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You're kidding right? No, I guess not. Modern day Somalia isn't how anarchocapitalism "turns out." It's how government turns out. Or is it your contention that Somalia has never had a government?

Most of Somalia's national wealth, economy, and infrastructure was destroyed by its government during it's collapse and the subsequent civil wars among competing warlords (i.e. would-be governments), and much of its population has fled the violence. Somalia's economy has also been hurt by Saudi Arabia's restriction on the importation of Somalian beef (I believe due to health concerns if I remember correctly; Green Valley Fever maybe?).

Still, Somalia has resisted the attempted installation of a government for more than a decade now. Even though land telecommunications infrastructure was totally destroyed during and subsequent to the government collapse, a cellular based, completely private telecommunications industry has sprund up that offers the lowest rates on the continent, and above average service availability and reliability.

Somalia has a long way to go before it has recovered from its governmental hangover. But trying to blame its problems on the LACK of a government rather than on the government that caused them is sophistry.

[Borodog]

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Many AC believers cite Somalia of an example of working AC.

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I believe there are hopeful signs in Somalia. But Somalia still has tremendous problems owing to its former government. And calling Somalia anarchocapitalist allows the intellectually lacadaisical to blame its problems on lack of government rather than the government(s) that caused them. As we have seen.

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That said, PVN is a fellow traveller of yours. Can everyone just STFU now?

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Thank you. Thank you very much.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

So how are you going to implement anarchocapitalism if you are not going to base it on removing a government in place?

[Borodog]

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So how are you going to implement anarchocapitalism if you are not going to base it on removing a government in place?

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Who said anything about not removing existing governments? Or me "implementing anarchocapitalism" for that matter?

[pvn]

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I was not posting Somalia as a snide remark, I was posting it to show you how extreme anarchocapitalism turns out.

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Except Somalia does NOT show how extreme anarchocapitalism "turns out". It shows how semi-extreme anarcho-capitalism *progresses* when it starts with total chaos, disrespect, and lawlessness - conditions spawed by a completely disasterous statist regime.

[tomdemaine]

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Any lurking around in here?

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They all got shot for 5 bucks by a guy with a bigger gun.

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You are right. Somalia is not an anarcho-capitalist society. Because anrcho-capitalism is a utopian pipe dream with no more chance of existing in the real world than Marx's vision of communism. To put it more succinctly Somalia:anarcho-capitalism = Cuba:Marxism.

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You are right. Somalia is not an anarcho-capitalist society. Because anrcho-capitalism is a utopian pipe dream with no more chance of existing in the real world than Marx's vision of communism. To put it more succinctly Somalia:anarcho-capitalism = Cuba:Marxism.

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Your ability to analogize is woefully lacking.

The problems of Somalia and Cuba are both caused by government, not its absence.