I tried for 2 days to supress my anger, but I can't . . . .

[Ali]

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it was tacked onto a port security bill. what senator in their mind would vote against that?

[/ QUOTE ]You seem to not understand how the Senate works. They could not have tacked it onto the bill if they were the minority.

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Which makes me think the majority gives a [censored] about online gaming. Unfortunately that's gotta be the truth as far as I can tell.

Nonetheless: Revolution plz. Thx.

TSP for President. I especially loved the part about the melting pole caps.

[boomshakalaka]

wow, everyone on 2+2 isnt a die-hard republican?

I dont like the current administration, and I consider myself liberal, however I think that people need to realize that there is a vast difference between neo conservatives and true conservatives. Sadly I think that conservatives need to realize this the most. It seems that too many conservatives actively support neo-conservatism because they dont know what else to do. They are afraid to be called a liberal.

Just because your sheppard has lead you to green pastures your whole life, it is not wise to continue to follow his lead when the signs on the road make it clear that the path you walk goes straight to the slaughter house.

[nycplayer]

I lived in Japan for three years, 2002-2005 and I am sorry to say that the country I returned to is not the same one I grew up in. I felt much freer in Japan.

When I grew up, my government couldn't read your mail or listen to your phone call without a warrant, like the Soviets could.

When I grew up you didn't need your papers to travel domestically, like in the USSR.

When I grew up, religious extremists didn't have undue influence over the government, like they did in Iran.

When I grew up, the President didn't have the power to lock up somebody for life, on his word alone, without granting them access to a lawyer, or a judge, or a trial.

When I grew up my country didn't have secret prisons in Eastern Europe like the Soviets did.

When I grew up believed that torture of anyone, including POWs or criminals was unconstitutional. We followed the Geneva conventions, even when our enemies didn't.

When I grew up we faced the threat of nuclear annihilation at any moment - no chickenshit band of airline hijackers would've caused us to piss our pants.

When I grew up, I never dreamed the president would say about my country that "it would be easier as a dictatorship, as long as I'm the dictator"

Would the last one to give up their liberty, please extinguish the torch?

[boomshakalaka]

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I lived in Japan for three years, 2002-2005 and I am sorry to say that the country I returned to is not the same one I grew up in. I felt much freer in Japan.

When I grew up, my government couldn't read your mail or listen to your phone call without a warrant, like the Soviets could.

When I grew up you didn't need your papers to travel domestically, like in the USSR.

When I grew up, religious extremists didn't have undue influence over the government, like they did in Iran.

When I grew up, the President didn't have the power to lock up somebody for life, on his word alone, without granting them access to a lawyer, or a judge, or a trial.

When I grew up my country didn't have secret prisons in Eastern Europe like the Soviets did.

When I grew up believed that torture of anyone, including POWs or criminals was unconstitutional. We followed the Geneva conventions, even when our enemies didn't.

When I grew up we faced the threat of nuclear annihilation at any moment - no chickenshit band of airline hijackers would've caused us to piss our pants.

When I grew up, I never dreamed the president would say about my country that "it would be easier as a dictatorship, as long as I'm the dictator"

Would the last one to give up their liberty, please extinguish the torch?

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np, however some of the stuff happened just the same when you grew up, it was just kept under better wraps. But like I said, np, this country has been going to [censored], its jsut sad that everyone needs something to directly effect them before they can see whast just over the horizon.

[Eulysses]

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When I grew up, religious extremists didn't have undue influence over the government, like they did in Iran.

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I beg to differ re: the Reagan presidency. Other than that NH sir.

[nycplayer]

Well, Nancy was famously consulting an astrologer - no way that today's fundies would put up with that kind of demonic witchcraft.

And as far as the point that all of these things happened, but were kept under wraps - well, I know that it is at least partially true, but at least we had conscience enough as a nation to be ashamed of such things. And the decency not to rub it in other countries' (and our own peoples') faces.

[snakekilla88]

booost STFU k thnx