My religion forbids gambling or games of chance.

[lozen]

Typical Right wing religious nut who is looking for an excuse to sin. Take most regious people and they will scarifice there beliefs when they can make money.

Ask your minister or priest not us

[tot]

theres no such thing as god

[Shandrax]

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My religion forbids games of chance (where there is no skill involved) to be played for money as do nmost conservative faiths.

I would like to know if Limit poker is a game of skill or chance. I really want to play but this is the only issue that is stopping me from doing so.

Please do not say obvious things like, if you play 1 hand, then yes chance dominates the skill factor and if you play 10000, vice versa.

Could someone informed in this area comment please. It would really help me out and decide once and for all to play or not.

Does skill truly determine the FINAL outcome of this game?

Thanks.

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The outcome of every single hand is determined by luck. Over the long run the good cards and the bard cards should even out, at least in theory (if not you are getting cheated). The skill is to make the most out of your good hands and lose the least with your bad hands. People with the biggest overlay (> rake) are called winning players. All I can say.

[Domus]

Almost any activity is related with luck or chances, at the end the skills or not luck helps the outcome of any activity whether is playing poker or chess or football, lady luck is always present. Make a bad move in chess and luck will help you if your oponent didn't notice it. Get a ball back from a fumble after a quaterback gives an interception. You might say its skill, I think luck has a lot to do. At the end, religion or not, do what you feel will make you happy. If you want to, you can try with fake money and try whether you find it skills or luck related. My advice, have fun and enjoy poker as much as you can, whether it is allowed or not, it is what you do with poker, not what poker does to you.

Either case, the bests of lucks in anything you do.

[MicroBob]

Yes, just because there is skill involved doesn't mean it is not gambling also.

When two golfers decide to play for $10,000 a hole I think most would consider that to be 'gambling' even though there is clearly skill involved.

And luck is still a factor as well (catch a lucky bounce, the wind blows the right away at exactly the right time, whatever).


I'm comfortable with the fact that the game I play for a living has a lot of luck involved over and over again.
Because I am comfortable that even with my mediocre skill and discipline I can still eek out a profit from it in the long-run.

[quadzillajim]

If it is true that there is a GOD,

and it is true that man has free will,

then GOD is the biggest gambler in the universe.

[excession]

'Please do not say obvious things like, if you play 1 hand, then yes chance dominates the skill factor and if you play 10000, vice versa.'

Unfortunately this is the only correct answer.
I know you religious types like to see the world in black and white terms, but most of life is shades of grey and poker is no different..the answer is that in cash ring games the luck factor decreases as you play more hands.. over 10 hands I stand a decent chance of being up against Phil Ivey - over 100,000 I am more likely to get killed by a stingray (and I don't swim)

[sweetjazz]

My country forbids gambling or games of chance.* [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

* Except for gambling offered by industries that have political connections.

[rakemeplz]

Start with freerolls and go from there...their is no risk involved hence no gambling.

[mikever]

I don't know about Islam. Viewpoints within Christianity are mixed. (BTW, I have an M.Div from a Christian seminary, but i am a poker player and hold many different opinions than most Christians.) Just fyi, the Bible never forbids gambling. Basically, all it says is to be responsible with your money, and you can be a poker player and be responsible with money.