I have nothing, but I'm pretty sure it's good...

[JeanieJ]

I don't really think this is a profitable move. Your read makes his range very narrow and you could just be spewing off chips. I think if anything but the ace falls your plan to raise the turn may be a good one. Now that the ace is there he's probably less likely to believe that you would slow play a single pair of aces.

[jason75]

With your stack (M of 13), is there a reason you're not raising KT in the SB when it's folded around?

I like the turn raise, because villian could have a lower pair you're pushing off the pot, and I'd hate to check the hand down with him just to see something like T6o beat me when I knew I could push him out.

Alternatively, you could call and lead the river . . .

[SilverLining1]

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With your stack (M of 13), is there a reason you're not raising KT in the SB when it's folded around?

I like the turn raise, because villian could have a lower pair you're pushing off the pot, and I'd hate to check the hand down with him just to see something like T6o beat me when I knew I could push him out.

Alternatively, you could call and lead the river . . .

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Yeah, but for how much, Jason? And what if our opponent catches a decent card (J, Q, 9) and decides to call. Leading the river puts a lot of pressure on you to make another bet on a much bigger pot. I like the c/r here very much.

[jason75]

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With your stack (M of 13), is there a reason you're not raising KT in the SB when it's folded around?

I like the turn raise, because villian could have a lower pair you're pushing off the pot, and I'd hate to check the hand down with him just to see something like T6o beat me when I knew I could push him out.

Alternatively, you could call and lead the river . . .

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Yeah, but for how much, Jason? And what if our opponent catches a decent card (J, Q, 9) and decides to call. Leading the river puts a lot of pressure on you to make another bet on a much bigger pot. I like the c/r here very much.

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The one problem with the C/R on the turn is if I'm villian, I'm asking myself if he limped with an A, and turned trips would he really check/raise here or just check/call/lead the river? I'd be inclined to believe this was a bluff and push here.

As for check/call/lead the river, I'd lead 1/2 pot (500) on the river if I whiffed(no T or K). The bet isn't much bigger than the turn raise, and looks like a value bet. I'm not going to sweat a Q,J,9 . . .It's a bluff/blocking bet so that villian can't really bluff at this pot and push us off. Although we could check/call if we're very confident (though would villain 3 barrell this board with a bluff?). I'd check/call if I hit a K or T.

[kleath]

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The one problem with the C/R on the turn is if I'm villian, I'm asking myself if he limped with an A, and turned trips would he really check/raise here or just check/call/lead the river? I'd be inclined to believe this was a bluff and push here.

As for check/call/lead the river, I'd lead 1/2 pot (500) on the river if I whiffed(no T or K). The bet isn't much bigger than the turn raise, and looks like a value bet. I'm not going to sweat a Q,J,9 . . .It's a bluff/blocking bet so that villian can't really bluff at this pot and push us off. Although we could check/call if we're very confident (though would villain 3 barrell this board with a bluff?). I'd check/call if I hit a K or T.

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You implying that when BB is betting you're going to lead when the 2nd ace comes up? Most people c/r here cause if you bet he's going to fold unless he's got an ace or a boat in which case he'll raise, whereas checking lets him bet again which he did on the flop and will likely do on the turn.

What I dont like about this hand is once you choose to play like this you're committing half your stack with K high, also in terms of strong hands he very well could have had 86 and you lucked out with that 2nd ace, in fact from your read I think 86 is a very likely hand.

[jason75]

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The one problem with the C/R on the turn is if I'm villian, I'm asking myself if he limped with an A, and turned trips would he really check/raise here or just check/call/lead the river? I'd be inclined to believe this was a bluff and push here.

As for check/call/lead the river, I'd lead 1/2 pot (500) on the river if I whiffed(no T or K). The bet isn't much bigger than the turn raise, and looks like a value bet. I'm not going to sweat a Q,J,9 . . .It's a bluff/blocking bet so that villian can't really bluff at this pot and push us off. Although we could check/call if we're very confident (though would villain 3 barrell this board with a bluff?). I'd check/call if I hit a K or T.

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You implying that when BB is betting you're going to lead when the 2nd ace comes up? Most people c/r here cause if you bet he's going to fold unless he's got an ace or a boat in which case he'll raise, whereas checking lets him bet again which he did on the flop and will likely do on the turn.

What I dont like about this hand is once you choose to play like this you're committing half your stack with K high, also in terms of strong hands he very well could have had 86 and you lucked out with that 2nd ace, in fact from your read I think 86 is a very likely hand.

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No. Check/call the turn, lead the river. This is as an alternative line to CRing the turn.

[kleath]

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The one problem with the C/R on the turn is if I'm villian, I'm asking myself if he limped with an A, and turned trips would he really check/raise here or just check/call/lead the river? I'd be inclined to believe this was a bluff and push here.

As for check/call/lead the river, I'd lead 1/2 pot (500) on the river if I whiffed(no T or K). The bet isn't much bigger than the turn raise, and looks like a value bet. I'm not going to sweat a Q,J,9 . . .It's a bluff/blocking bet so that villian can't really bluff at this pot and push us off. Although we could check/call if we're very confident (though would villain 3 barrell this board with a bluff?). I'd check/call if I hit a K or T.

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You implying that when BB is betting you're going to lead when the 2nd ace comes up? Most people c/r here cause if you bet he's going to fold unless he's got an ace or a boat in which case he'll raise, whereas checking lets him bet again which he did on the flop and will likely do on the turn.

What I dont like about this hand is once you choose to play like this you're committing half your stack with K high, also in terms of strong hands he very well could have had 86 and you lucked out with that 2nd ace, in fact from your read I think 86 is a very likely hand.

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No. Check/call the turn, lead the river. This is as an alternative line to CRing the turn.

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If he has something like 86 though he's shutting down wether you C/C or C/R unless he rivers a boat, whereas since a c/r could still be a bluff it would probably be the optimal line with an ace anyways, this all to say that yes a c/r with an ace is certainly a reasonable line.