check the flop, call down.

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(I would actually call a checkrasie here b/c of your 2 backdoor draws).

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Forgive me for the basic question but we have about 1.5 outs for the BDFD and .5 out for the restricted BDSD. That's about 2 outs total. So we need 22:1 to call the flop.

9.5 SB PF, 3-5 SB flop dependin if the passive comes with.

that is 12.5:1 or 14.5:1

That is a far cry from the 22:1 we need. I guess if you give us 1 out for the A then we have enough of a reason to call if the passive comes with. Sure he's a lag but if the passive calls will he really checkraise lightly?

HU we simply don't have the odds to call with the BDFD and so we have to fold. Yes, it's more likely hes doing it lightly but we have far less odds. Our ace simply won't supply the 1.5 outs required to call. Is my reasoning right there or am I off on this one?