So if Credit Cards and Neteller are out...

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no online poker site would allow Americans to play there if this bill becomes law, because their execs wouldn't want to be indicted and sent to prison in the United States

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PartyGaming has explicity acknowleged the risk of their officers' arrest by US authorities. Frankly, I think flouting the US law is worth the risk for them and possibly some of the other large sites.

[Lawman007]

Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans?

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This hasn't happened, bro. Check out the sports betting forum, they're still allowing us to bet there. In fact, not one sportsbook has stopped Americans because of this legislation (some had not permitted it prior to the legislation even being an issue).

[Lawman007]

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans?

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This hasn't happened, bro. Check out the sports betting forum, they're still allowing us to bet there. In fact, not one sportsbook has stopped Americans because of this legislation (some had not permitted it prior to the legislation even being an issue).

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I'm not a sports bettor, but I recall seeing a number of posts here about several online sportsbooks no longer allowing Americans to bet there after the Betonsports execs were indicted. I know that Betonsports stopped it after that.

[Freerollin`]

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans?

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This hasn't happened, bro. Check out the sports betting forum, they're still allowing us to bet there. In fact, not one sportsbook has stopped Americans because of this legislation (some had not permitted it prior to the legislation even being an issue).

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I'm not a sports bettor, but I recall seeing a number of posts here about several online sportsbooks no longer allowing Americans to bet there after the Betonsports execs were indicted. I know that Betonsports stopped it after that.

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Those were all the rip off artists. All quality books (mansion, bodog, cris, pinny, sia, wwts, etc.) still allow it. Plus, Betonsports was a different situation. Their CEO was indicted because he was an idiot. They have toll free answering in the US, and drove vans in the US where they promoted their book and let people make bets from the vans here.

This is not an attempt to make people less wary about the legislation - it's really worth worrying about - but the sportsbooks still allow us.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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It's pretty hard to dispute this since some online poker sites are already turning away US citizens. So, while there may be workarounds to fund a poker account, there may be no poker accounts to fund. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

However, if the doors do remain open for the US, the first time I funded a poker account it was with something called 900Pay, or something like that, and the deposit was charged to my next month's telephone bill. Does anyone know if this would fall under the restrictions of the bill?

Janis

[JuntMonkey]

The 900-number thing sounds promising, assuming that ISP's don't block the sites - which I don't think is nearly as likely as some are making it out. From what I've read it seems like it's the financial transactions that are the focus here.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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If you have a pessimistic viewpoint that's fine, but this is just not accurate.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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If you have a pessimistic viewpoint that's fine, but this is just not accurate.

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I'm not a pessimist; I'm a realist. Now go stick your head back in the sand.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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If you have a pessimistic viewpoint that's fine, but this is just not accurate.

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I'm not a pessimist; I'm a realist. Now go stick your head back in the sand.

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Fair enough...you still are not accurate. Most major books still take action from the US (did you miss out on the free money from Mansion last week?). From recent interviews with Ware and Ayre, two of the biggest names in the industry, this isn't changing soon.