10/20 O/8 Hand

[Dire]

You're obviously not ahead after the turn, and there's a very good chance you're facing a set, so it just becomes a straight forward pot odds question.

Any ace and a nonpairing club will give you the hand. That's 2+7 = 9 outs for half the pot. If you're getting around 9:1 call, otherwise fold.

[TMTTR]

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You're obviously not ahead after the turn, and there's a very good chance you're facing a set, so it just becomes a straight forward pot odds question.

Any ace and a nonpairing club will give you the hand. That's 2+7 = 9 outs for half the pot. If you're getting around 9:1 call, otherwise fold.

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Clearly not ahead on the turn...

My mistake on the pairing outs --- but you are also wrong. There is no made low yet. You have 3 outs to scoop, 6 outs to half the pot. You don't need 9 to 1, you don't even need 7 to 1, but it is very close... (and you have implied odds if you hit).

[wiseheart]

If you are even thinking of folding this hand,
I can see why your opponents are 3betting, because
they know they can raise to make you fold and thus
improve their outs.

[Dire]

Yeah, I made the mistake calculating everything as half. Let's see then. 3 scoop outs = 13.7:1. 6 half outs = 6.3:1. This is easier to solve as an equity problem. So you have .068 scoop equity and .137 half equity. That's a total equity of .068 + 0.5*.137 = .1365. .1365 is 6.32:1. Add some implied odds and nonnut gutshot juice and 6:1 sounds fair.

It looks like he's getting 20:3 on the turn, and there's a good chance at least one other player will also call the cap. So, assuming I didn't make a mistake in the math, it's an easy ( but high variance ) call.