Two hands from LIVE 5k max-buy in private home game

[fslexcduck]

hand 1 is either a call or a push, for the reasons you stated. i prefer a call since usually a call in that spot looks very strong - if he checks you can push the turn, and often if he would have folded to push, he'll check/fold turn, and if he would have called the push he will shove turn. you save yourself money when he has a monster and win the max i think by calling.

hand number 2 just stick it in there.

[DeMaci]

Shove-Shove

[AceCR9]

hand 1- call and see what happens on the turn. If he bets a non- pairing diamond raise for sure.

hand 2- PUSH!!!

[subblime]

Perhaps biased cause though I haven't played this game but I know the players.

Hand 1 I agree you need to raise more if you do raise, but I don't think anyone in that game folds KK given that action. Especially someone who is splashing around and looking to pick off a move just like the one you did.

Hand 2 I had a very similar hand recently against Persian who you probably know and I just-called $1,200 pot-sized bet on the river with double-paired board and flush out there. I had second-worst FH. He was $4,000 behind and I thought he'd only call with a better hand if I pushed.

FWIW, he had the worst full house and everyone thought I was a moron for not pushing.

[donkey]

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(and shouldn't have 3-bet pf with K9 - 62o is much better for that purpose)


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ur really really off imo.

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LOL, i like the "imo"... as if this was debatable.

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It's very debatable, 'imo'. Pre-flop was basically a resteal from someone he percieved to be overaggressive based on seeing him play 4 hands. The problem is, he picked a hand that's easily dominated in a number of ways and can get him in trouble post-flop. With 6,2o you know exactly where you stand and don't have to play any guessing games. To the obv forthcoming response of "well, that's called playing poker," while that may be true, setting yourself up for tough decisions from flop on is NOT the key to winning the game.

Now tell me how I'm so way off that "it's not even debatable."

Kirk

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dude, it's not even debatable. if you really are that bad at playing postflop and making "decisions" in this spot, pretend your K9 is really 62o and play it accordingly. just imagine, it's like making the move with 62o but sometimes you'll hit flushes and straights and cool stuff like that!

[whitelime]

Push and Push.

[quickfetus]

Hand 1: You have position! Just call, play poker on the turn, try to stack him with a diamond. Raising can easily result in a) Getting blown off your hand or b) Getting it in as a big dog to an unknown. The turn is the tricky street IMO.

Hand 2: Umm, fold preflop. We really think this is an EV situation!? Anyways. Flop is obviously good. I think I smoothcall turn for pot control, since we are throwing up if he 3-bets. Plus, if we smoothcall the turn and he checks a bricked river, our thin value bet looks like missed spades. The river is interesting as well. It looks like a shove; all we're afraid of is 77 and 44 (the latter being very unlikely), and there are plenty of flushes which will give us value. This could also be a block with an ace I guess.

Quickfetus

PS: What do you guys think of smoothcalling turn?

[duck_butter]

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you're only 3:1 to make the flush by the river)

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mistype?

[klonpucko]

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[It's very debatable, 'imo'. Pre-flop was basically a resteal from someone he percieved to be overaggressive based on seeing him play 4 hands. The problem is, he picked a hand that's easily dominated in a number of ways and can get him in trouble post-flop. With 6,2o you know exactly where you stand and don't have to play any guessing games. To the obv forthcoming response of "well, that's called playing poker," while that may be true, setting yourself up for tough decisions from flop on is NOT the key to winning the game.

Now tell me how I'm so way off that "it's not even debatable."

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why do people who clearly do not comprehend HSNL enough to beat it even post advice in HSNL?

[BobboFitos]

id probably fold pf hand 1
given you didnt, call here. alot can happen on the turn. problem with raising is even if you have fold equity - which is probable - you're leveraging your stack to win the pot... basically any raise you make PCs you to call the rest of it if he pushes

hand 2 you should bet the flop

obv push the river, no?