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Old 08-29-2006, 05:55 PM
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Ted Lawson calling Freddy Deeb's river bet with nothing, thinking he had a straight he couldn't possibly have given the board, in the 2004 $5K PLO. That takes the cake for me.

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Agree with this as the worst ever, but you have the details wrong.

3 handed PLO

BB = Deeb 830K
SB = Lawson 490K
Button = Watkinson 240K

Blinds ?

Watkinons calls with Ks Qd Th 6c
Lawson calls with 9s 8d 8s 5c
Deeb checks with Jc Jh Jd 2d

Flop = Ts 7h 4c

Check Check Check

Turn = Ts 7h 4c Td

Check, check, Deeb bets an unkonown ammout, Watkinson raises some ammount (looks big, probably pot)

Now comes the worst play in WSOP history ...

Lawson squints at the board and takes a good long look ...

Lawson : Raise. Whatever he (Watkinson) has left.
Deeb: How much are you raising? I'm still in the hand.
Lawson All right, I'll raise 100,000.

Deeb folds. Lee calls all-in. Final pot = 550K.

Lawson: I got a straight.

He lays down his cards and nobody corrects him.

River = Ts 7h 4c Td 2h

Dealer pushes the chips to Watkinson. Lawson, looking bewildered, stops the dealer and spreads out the cards.

Lawson : 7, 8, 9, Ten ...
Dealer : That's only 4 cards
Lawson : Oh, you're right. Ai, yai, yai. What am I thinking, oh my god ...
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:45 PM
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I am shocked that nobody has mentioned the 2006 WSOP Circuit event that Kido Pham luckboxed his way into winning yet. This is the event that made me so sick I almost gave up watching tournament poker on TV.

Final table, down to about 7 players, he is the #2 stack and 2005 champ Joe Hachem is the chip leader.

Blinds at about 2-4k or 3-6k, a guy raises to 16k. Kido Pham re-raised to 50k with J-10(offsuit). . .

Then, Joe Hachem came over the top of BOTH of them, re-raised to 150k with KK. His total stack, as chip leader, is about 650k. . .

Now, after the first raiser folds, Kido Pham, with J-10, as the #2 stack at the table (about 575k+), <font color="red">GOES ALL-IN, vs. a guy re-raising TWO raisers, against the only guy at the table who can bust him. </font> [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Flop was J-J-x, the rest is history. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:03 PM
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I am shocked that nobody has mentioned the 2006 WSOP Circuit event that Kido Pham luckboxed his way into winning yet. This is the event that made me so sick I almost gave up watching tournament poker on TV.

Final table, down to about 7 players, he is the #2 stack and 2005 champ Joe Hachem is the chip leader.

Blinds at about 2-4k or 3-6k, a guy raises to 16k. Kido Pham re-raised to 50k with J-10(offsuit). . .

Then, Joe Hachem came over the top of BOTH of them, re-raised to 150k with KK. His total stack, as chip leader, is about 650k. . .

Now, after the first raiser folds, Kido Pham, with J-10, as the #2 stack at the table (about 575k+), <font color="red">GOES ALL-IN, vs. a guy re-raising TWO raisers, against the only guy at the table who can bust him. </font> [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Flop was J-J-x, the rest is history. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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This is terrible, but Kido made at least a dozen similarly terrible plays, so it does not surprise me in the least.

He and Doug Lee were vying for the title of "worst hand reader of all time" because their method of hand reading was to basically ALWAYS assume that their opponents were holding mediocre hands that couldn't stand a ton of heat.
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: Worst plays you\'ve seen in the history of ESPN WSOP?

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I am shocked that nobody has mentioned the 2006 WSOP Circuit event that Kido Pham luckboxed his way into winning yet. This is the event that made me so sick I almost gave up watching tournament poker on TV.

Final table, down to about 7 players, he is the #2 stack and 2005 champ Joe Hachem is the chip leader.

Blinds at about 2-4k or 3-6k, a guy raises to 16k. Kido Pham re-raised to 50k with J-10(offsuit). . .

Then, Joe Hachem came over the top of BOTH of them, re-raised to 150k with KK. His total stack, as chip leader, is about 650k. . .

Now, after the first raiser folds, Kido Pham, with J-10, as the #2 stack at the table (about 575k+), <font color="red">GOES ALL-IN, vs. a guy re-raising TWO raisers, against the only guy at the table who can bust him. </font> [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Flop was J-J-x, the rest is history. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Reading this thread, I forgot all about this. I do remember puking though.
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Old 08-29-2006, 10:10 PM
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Ted Lawson calling Freddy Deeb's river bet with nothing, thinking he had a straight he couldn't possibly have given the board, in the 2004 $5K PLO. That takes the cake for me.

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Agree with this as the worst ever, but you have the details wrong.

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You're right. Hadn't seen it in awhile. In fact, I think I'll go back and watch it again, and reaffirm that if Lawson can win a bracelet in PLO, I certainly can.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:20 PM
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Ted Lawson calling Freddy Deeb's river bet with nothing, thinking he had a straight he couldn't possibly have given the board, in the 2004 $5K PLO. That takes the cake for me.

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Agree with this as the worst ever, but you have the details wrong.

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You're right. Hadn't seen it in awhile. In fact, I think I'll go back and watch it again, and reaffirm that if Lawson can win a bracelet in PLO, I certainly can.

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It makes me very sad to think I will probably never get close to winning such an event in my best game and that guy can win it when he played so badly.

On another hand he re-pot-raised when he caught the worst possible full house on the river and Deeb says he's making a crying call with a full house. When Lawson showed his hand and says "fives full of eights" it looked like he thought he expected to win. He then acted like he got coolered when Deeb shows a better (but weak) boat, eights full of fives.

Follow his chip stack when they report it. He was constantly flying from first to last to first to last.
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Old 08-30-2006, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: Worst plays you\'ve seen in the history of ESPN WSOP?

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Ted Lawson calling Freddy Deeb's river bet with nothing, thinking he had a straight he couldn't possibly have given the board, in the 2004 $5K PLO. That takes the cake for me.

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Agree with this as the worst ever, but you have the details wrong.

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You're right. Hadn't seen it in awhile. In fact, I think I'll go back and watch it again, and reaffirm that if Lawson can win a bracelet in PLO, I certainly can.

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It makes me very sad to think I will probably never get close to winning such an event in my best game and that guy can win it when he played so badly.

On another hand he re-pot-raised when he caught the worst possible full house on the river and Deeb says he's making a crying call with a full house. When Lawson showed his hand and says "fives full of eights" it looked like he thought he expected to win. He then acted like he got coolered when Deeb shows a better (but weak) boat, eights full of fives.

Follow his chip stack when they report it. He was constantly flying from first to last to first to last.

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I was surprised Freddy didn't reraise there, actually. I doubt Lawson would have slowplayed a bigger full house on the turn. He could have busted Lawson on that hand. At the end, when Freddy said he gave Lawson too much credit, I think he was talking specifically about this hand.

But yeah, that was so funny watching it again.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:03 PM
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But yeah, that was so funny watching it again.

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The craziest thing about the "straight" hand is that he only seemed to "see" it after the board paired on the turn. Either that or he "saw" it on the flop but decided to slowplay it and then "lower the hammer" after the board paired.

Mind-boggling.
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:56 AM
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I saw a re-run of the Lawson final table for the first time last night and I was cringing at practically everything he said or did.

The 'straight' hand was shocking but even worse was the hand with Freddy Deeb where Lawson had the lowest possible full house and still thought he had a chance of winning the pot when Deeb announced he had a house.

Then there were the various quotes he came out with - "Every time I play I expect to win" and "My aim is to become the best player in the world".

Then there was the way he tipped the dealer with a single bill from his wallet (I'm guessing it was $10) after walking off with the $500k first prize.

Complete idiot doesn't begin to sum it up!
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Old 09-06-2006, 10:44 AM
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Seems like everytime (day 1) I look up Poker Wire I see Ted Lawson's name.

I would go to Hendon Mob to see if he has many or any cashes since then but corporate has them blocked.

Could someone post this?
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