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Old 08-29-2006, 04:44 PM
KingGeorgeC KingGeorgeC is offline
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Default Re: Worst plays you\'ve seen in the history of ESPN WSOP?

Kantor vs Raymer ... Kantor rivers a flush
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:18 PM
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Kantor vs Raymer ... Kantor rivers a flush

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I hope you're kidding, This isn't in the top 1000 worst plays ever televised. He had two overs, a flush draw, and could also have been bluffing the str too.

now his REREREraise with K5o on a KT7 board vs Barch IS in the Top 10.
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:48 PM
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[I hope you're kidding, This isn't in the top 1000 worst plays ever televised. He had two overs, a flush draw, and could also have been bluffing the str too.

now his REREREraise with K5o on a KT7 board vs Barch IS in the Top 10.

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how about his flat call on the flop with only Q high on a rainbow flop?
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:07 PM
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[I hope you're kidding, This isn't in the top 1000 worst plays ever televised. He had two overs, a flush draw, and could also have been bluffing the str too.

now his REREREraise with K5o on a KT7 board vs Barch IS in the Top 10.

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how about his flat call on the flop with only Q high on a rainbow flop?

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He was planning to bluff the turn. Haven't you ever done that?
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:10 PM
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i doubt that, he had called with K high on the flop before and not bluffed at it

and for the record, no.
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:35 PM
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I remember some donk calling a LAG down on a scary board with K high. And the donk won.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:19 AM
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i doubt that, he had called with K high on the flop before and not bluffed at it

and for the record, no.

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It's called floating, every great player, ( not that Kantor is great) has it in his repertoire, and situations change. He made the same play vs Hachem later.
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Old 08-31-2006, 06:17 PM
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[I hope you're kidding, This isn't in the top 1000 worst plays ever televised. He had two overs, a flush draw, and could also have been bluffing the str too.

now his REREREraise with K5o on a KT7 board vs Barch IS in the Top 10.

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how about his flat call on the flop with only Q high on a rainbow flop?

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He was planning to bluff the turn. Haven't you ever done that?

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Usually, one does this when the OOP player checks to you. If he bets, bluffing becomes pretty stupid.

Also, when he picked up the flush draw on the turn and actually had the outs to just call, bluff-raising became a truly retarded play.
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Old 08-31-2006, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Worst plays you\'ve seen in the history of ESPN WSOP?

Farha's lay-down of top pair (9s) to Moneymaker's all-in bluff. Cost him 2.5 million and the title.

FLAME ON!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Oh, terrible laydowns, not costly. My bad.
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Old 08-31-2006, 07:12 PM
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Farha's lay-down of top pair (9s) to Moneymaker's all-in bluff. Cost him 2.5 million and the title.

FLAME ON!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Oh, terrible laydowns, not costly. My bad.

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i believe it cost him either less (around the area of 1.3m or so, forgot what 2nd place was) or more (if you include endorsement deals) than 2.5m.
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