"Outplaying"

[nath]

being able to "outplay" an opponent usually involves a level of skill in narrowing his hand range that we simply don't have / isn't available online with the donks that call with Ax and third pair and gutshots to the dumb end and whatnot.
I find it's not so much used as a synonym for "bluff" as it is a euphemism for "I'm afraid of committing too many chips preflop".

[Jurollo]

I am referring to slightly higher buyins with players you are somewhat familiar with. It becomes much easier to put people on smaller ranges, thereby knowing when you are completely skulled and when you can fairly safely apply pressure.
~Justin

[nath]

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I am referring to slightly higher buyins with players you are somewhat familiar with. It becomes much easier to put people on smaller ranges, thereby knowing when you are completely skulled and when you can fairly safely apply pressure.
~Justin

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Oh yeah, I agree with you. I wasn't responding directly to your comment but to the idea of "outplaying" as it gets thrown around in general.

[cardsharkk04]

Its kind of hard to outplay aces full

[nath]

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Its kind of hard to outplay aces full

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Well, yeah, getting the second nuts made it easier, but I checked the flop knowing he would bluff with anything, and I bet the river small knowing he would think it was a weak attempt at a bluff and he could raise me off the hand.
So, see, I'm a [censored] genius. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Killme00]

It was very nice of you to leave him with 250 chips....or were you intent on just slapping him round a bit

[nath]

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It was very nice of you to leave him with 250 chips....or were you intent on just slapping him round a bit

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He left himself the 250 with his river bluff. I reraised to try to get them out of him, but he folded.
Part of me wanted to just call, to see what he was trying to Gus me with. Could have been a good laugh.

[nath]

This thread gives me a perfect excuse to post this hand from last night's 3r 10k. Little bugger to my left was a Gus Hansen wannabe, calling my raises every time and trying to take away the pot, occasionally flipping over absolute garbage to show how smart he was. Needless to say, his stack had been dwindling. (We each arrived at the table with about 10k, and you can see where the stacks are now.)
With this hand I decided to let him try to "outplay" the rest of his chips over to me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t29150)
MP1 (t18013)
MP2 (t12310)
Hero (t18610)
CO (t4843)
Button (t7649)
SB (t14215)
BB (t6457)
UTG (t8972)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t700</font>, CO calls t700, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1600) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800.

Turn: (t3200) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t3200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t3000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5000</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: t11200

The best part is that his little river bluff left him 250 chips behind-- the ol' "hanging on to cab fare" bluff. Couldn't have made it easier on me. (OK, maybe this belongs in BBV, but it's such a good example of what happens when a doofus tries to "outplay" his opponents.)

[Dave G.]

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the ol' "hanging on to cab fare" bluff

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I almost spat my drink out when I read this. nh.