*Official* HSP 8/21

[mikechops]

I thought Gus betting pot on the river with JT and trips was an interesting move. I was thinking check/call, since there were missed draws. DN can't fold a better hand and probably folds worse. Then again, maybe Gus read him as tilting and thought the payoff wizard would strike again.

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I thought Gus betting pot on the river with JT and trips was an interesting move. I was thinking check/call, since there were missed draws. DN can't fold a better hand and probably folds worse. Then again, maybe Gus read him as tilting and thought the payoff wizard would strike again.

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It was risky, but in line with his aggressive game plan. I think he really thought he was chopping or barely winning, and thought there was a decent chance Daniel would lay down the same hand if he bet.

Obviously though, he was risking having to fold to a raise.

I would have check/called, for sure.

[Scooterdoo]

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I thought Gus betting pot on the river with JT and trips was an interesting move. I was thinking check/call, since there were missed draws. DN can't fold a better hand and probably folds worse. Then again, maybe Gus read him as tilting and thought the payoff wizard would strike again.

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On the JT hand does anyone think there was an amount that Gus could have bet that Danny would have folded to? I'm think NOT, because clearly he would have called anything less and perhaps if Gus bet more DN would have put him on a bluff -- plus he seems to be on tilt and doesn't seem capable of folding in this session (what was with his call of the $19k PF bet with his two rags -- oh, they were suited)?

[Lyric]

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(what was with his call of the $19k PF bet with his two rags -- oh, they were suited)?

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Daniel has never folded to a re-raise pre-flop in any of the HSP shows for any amount.

[Phntm]

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Daniel has never folded to a re-raise pre-flop in any of the HSP shows for any amount.

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Sounds like a good strategy.......
What are his totals from the HSP sessions??

[Jooka]

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Daniel has never folded to a re-raise pre-flop in any of the HSP shows for any amount.

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Sounds like a good strategy.......
What are his totals from the HSP sessions??

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HSP season 1 = -$264,100

HSP season 2 = -$331,500


thats just his poker tally.

[legend42]

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HSP season 1 = -$264,100

HSP season 2 = -$331,500

thats just his poker tally.

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Gus doesn't hit a one-outer, which had nothing to do with DN making a loose preflop call, and that big negative might completely... negated?

Not to mention 43 vs. Deeb's 55 on a 2 3 5 3 2 board. He's also flopped at least FIVE straights, and a king high flush, and another set (besides the Gus hand) that all got drawn out on.

Yes, he's also had a few fortunate hands- stacking Tood with AQ vs. AK when the flop came queen high and Doyle with 88 vs. AA when he flopped a set on a 2-flush board in "steam" mode- and his postflop play hasn't been perfect, but overall his luck in that game has been terrible, and those net results are hardly the consequence of (and probably have very little connection to) his proclivity for calling re-raises with speculative hands, usually in position against another deep stack.

[cbloom]

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I'm interested in knowing how many hands are won pre-flop by one raise and no calls.


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Based on the looseness they show on TV I'm guessing not very many, maybe 10-20%. The preflop play seems just like Party low stakes tables.

[bilbo-san]

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HSP season 1 = -$264,100

HSP season 2 = -$331,500

thats just his poker tally.

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Gus doesn't hit a one-outer, which had nothing to do with DN making a loose preflop call, and that big negative might completely... negated?

Not to mention 43 vs. Deeb's 55 on a 2 3 5 3 2 board. He's also flopped at least FIVE straights, and a king high flush, and another set (besides the Gus hand) that all got drawn out on.

Yes, he's also had a few fortunate hands- stacking Tood with AQ vs. AK when the flop came queen high and Doyle with 88 vs. AA when he flopped a set on a 2-flush board in "steam" mode- and his postflop play hasn't been perfect, but overall his luck in that game has been terrible, and those net results are hardly the consequence of (and probably have very little connection to) his proclivity for calling re-raises with speculative hands, usually in position against another deep stack.

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Yes, Daniel is stuck a lot because he's had some bad luck.

But I think Daniel would be stuck a lot less if luck was the ONLY factor involved.

Antonio and Barry Greenstein have both been on the bad end of some really unlucky spots, and neither is stuck anywhere as close to Daniel.

What if someone could have told Antonio in advance that he'd get AA five times, and manage to be all-in preflop most of the time with it, and still be stuck? Think he'd say that's some bad luck?

And yet he didn't lose very much at all, and left a winner yesterday (although I don't know if it makes up for his losses).

[PokerSlut]

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Not to mention 43 vs. Deeb's 55 on a 2 3 5 3 2 board.

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IIRC, Deeb had 53, not 55.