AA At 100NL

[calmasahinducow]

you are giving odds for your whole stack with your bet on the turn and your unwillingness to fold 1-pair. check for pot control or shove. If you check you can then check again to induce a bluff on the river and then call a reasonable bet assuming a reasonable card comes. If you shove you are only getting called by better hands and retards. Betting 22 dollars leaves your stack with an awkward size and no plan for the river. Your check to induce a bluff on the river is also laughable. What hands are you inducing bluffs from that you're gonna call? Someone is really gonna bet 10 dollars into the 72 dollar pot with A7 or JThh?

[grando]

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you are giving odds for your whole stack with your bet on the turn and your unwillingness to fold 1-pair. check for pot control or shove. If you check you can then check again to induce a bluff on the river and then call a reasonable bet assuming a reasonable card comes. If you shove you are only getting called by better hands and retards. Betting 22 dollars leaves your stack with an awkward size and no plan for the river. Your check to induce a bluff on the river is also laughable. What hands are you inducing bluffs from that you're gonna call? Someone is really gonna bet 10 dollars into the 72 dollar pot with A7 or JThh?

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betting 22 gives me a perfect amount for a river bet to put him all in if this stupid card doesn't come

since when does betting 22 on the turn "give odds for my whole stack"? this river card isn't the worst card to come out - I'm scared way more if an 8 or 3 or heart comes off here

I don't think checking or pushing the turn is a good play, but I can appreciate your criticism

[grando]

FWIW, I now think checking the river to induce a bluff is a bad play, cause there aren't a lot of hands he's bluffing here that don't have showdown value (i.e. he'd just check behind river)

[cbiz]

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you are giving odds for your whole stack with your bet on the turn and your unwillingness to fold 1-pair. check for pot control or shove. If you check you can then check again to induce a bluff on the river and then call a reasonable bet assuming a reasonable card comes. If you shove you are only getting called by better hands and retards. Betting 22 dollars leaves your stack with an awkward size and no plan for the river. Your check to induce a bluff on the river is also laughable. What hands are you inducing bluffs from that you're gonna call? Someone is really gonna bet 10 dollars into the 72 dollar pot with A7 or JThh?

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So you say check or shove but a shove only gets called by better hands?

I would bet the turn 80%+ against this guy who, without a better read, we consider a calling station. What do u do when you are against a calling station? Value bet.

On the river this is a tough one but i doubt this guys is going to bluff the river a lot but also bet/folding getting 5 to 1 sounds retarded so i guess i just check/fold.