why isn't wsex more popular??

[recipro]

I've put about 30k of action through WSEX sportsbook since they introduced rake-free poker.

Of course, this hasn't actually been beneficial for WSEX thus far. Oh well.

[Tuff_Fish]

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We are still growing. The amount we pay in rakeback every week is still growing.

Good


I will not be happy until our product is not only the cheapest place to play but the best platform to play. There's not a lot I can do to speed things up at this point other than stand over the developers shoulders and yell "Type faster."

Good, keep yelling

Football is around the corner and there are many WSEX regualar customers who will be back in the sportsbook. I am sure a good number of them may dabble in the poker room. Once they arrive, and we get this next release out, I think we will start to see Scout numbers over 1,000. It's just a guess.

Thanks for playing at WSEX and if you haven't played since June, come on back and try again. I think you'll see some improvements.

Perhaps soon, can you easily change your username on WSEX?

Fred Balfour
General Manager
WSEX.com

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Hand Histories to Hard Drives, the Disconnect fix, four tabling, and several other issues should be resolved in the next release in September.

NO NO NO NO... You are going the wrong way..!!

Why on earth do you want more multitablers????? You don't collect rake so that argument is out. But they DO collect money from your rec players.. like me.

If I lose my money to a bunch of multitabling tags, I wont be back, and I wont be booking any bets.

Besides, multitablers annoy the rec players by playing SLOW.

Two tables, not four. Who is your target player base anyway?

Tony Tuff Fish ( THE holy mackeral)

[Instyle007]

Awhile back another rake free site launched and failed horribly.

The reason being the general public does not understand nor care about rake. If your only angle is something the fish do not know or care about, you can’t attract them. If you can’t attract the fish you’ll never get the sharks.

WSEX cannot afford to advertise the poker site heavily as it's a $0 money making proposition.

My prediction, within the next 3-6 months the WSEX no rake poker room will have a hard time keeping 1 table full 24 hours per day.

[MicroBob]

I'm seeing full-page WSEX ads in CardPlayer and Bluff (and perhaps other magazines too) and also are advertising right here on 2+2.

No, it isn't the same as advertising on the WPT. But it is a start anyway. It's not like they aren't marketing at all.

I would go a slightly different direction with the look and feel of the ads to be more noticeable. But it is something.


Here's my marketing suggestion:

my preference instead of the big block 'NO RAKE' with weirdly faded lettering would be to show a graphic of something like, "This week we are paying you an extra $340."
or something like, "Could you use an extra $300 this week?" and then explain that this is the amount that you will GET PAID at the end of the week if you play regularly at WPEX.
There's a big difference in mentality between, "We don't take any of those $1 or $2 rakes out. Lookie at us. We have no rake" vs. "At the end of the week, WE WILL PAY YOU $350 if you play regularly on 1 table at WPEX."

The pop-up on WPEX shows the rake-back calculator and how much you can make.
This isn't even approached in the magazine ads where it just says, "NO RAKE".
Many players don't understand the significance of 'no rake' but do understand the significance of getting an extra $300 (or much more) at the end of the week.

In the ads you could also market WPEX as the "Home of the RakeBack Calculator. Where we show you how much WE WILL PAY YOU at the end of each week." (note that - "WE WILL PAY YOU" is the preferrable language to use vs. "How much you will save" which really doesn't sound much better than a 25% off JCPenny's sale to me).

[HRFats]

OK - I've never played on WPEX or even considered it...until today.

I need to know HOW the rakeback is calculated. Is it the rake I contribute OR my percent of the table rake (i.e. I get 10% at a 10 person table and 20% at a 5 MAX). I play SLAA (22,6,2) I know it's been discussed many times but I never seem to see a concrete answer. The calculation will influence my decision. Thanks.

[707782]

I can't remember how much money I lost to WSEX casino, can I at least get some back or what, at least some roll over bonus......come on.

[SenorBeef]

If you really are taking out full page ads in cardplayer, explain to people how much rake rapes you in the butt.

Explain that while taking $3 out of a pot when you win $50 doesn't seem like a big deal, 3*10% (win rate)*60 (hpr) *25 hours *52 = $23,400 that would otherwise be in the pocket of the player.

Or demonstrate it on an hourly basis... if you're good enough to beat a $2-$4 game for $15/hr, but pay $18 in rake, you're actually losing when you should be a substantial winner.

"Rake free!" isn't as effective unless your target audience has the implications of this explained to them.

[MNpoker]

Please be sure to email us once this happens. (The HH part) I'm looking forward to coming back!

[MNpoker]

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Awhile back another rake free site launched and failed horribly.

The reason being the general public does not understand nor care about rake. If your only angle is something the fish do not know or care about, you can’t attract them. If you can’t attract the fish you’ll never get the sharks.

WSEX cannot afford to advertise the poker site heavily as it's a $0 money making proposition.

My prediction, within the next 3-6 months the WSEX no rake poker room will have a hard time keeping 1 table full 24 hours per day.

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I'll take that bet. Find someone to hold the money in escrow and you are on.

[Guthrie]

Because playing there is absolute torture. The layout is blinding. It's impossible to tell where you are and where the action is. The concept of having giant cards at the bottom of the screen, near someone else's seat, and the microscopic cards at your actual seat must have been designed by a complete moron for the sole purpose of causing people to misplay their hands.