Ruling about putting chips in front of one's cards

[pa3lsvt]

In Atlantic City, your cards are the betting line. Now you know.

[NickMPK]

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In Atlantic City, your cards are the betting line. Now you know.

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Even if this is true, I thought that placing chips less than the amount of the bet into the pot was not necessarily a call, except that you had to forfeit those chips into the pot if you decided not to complete the call.

[esch]

[quoteEven if this is true, I thought that placing chips less than the amount of the bet into the pot was not necessarily a call, except that you had to forfeit those chips into the pot if you decided not to complete the call.

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Is that a real ruling? (Not completing a call/forfeiting chips) That would be a pretty unusual ruling.

[Kaeser]

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[quoteEven if this is true, I thought that placing chips less than the amount of the bet into the pot was not necessarily a call, except that you had to forfeit those chips into the pot if you decided not to complete the call.

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Is that a real ruling? (Not completing a call/forfeiting chips) That would be a pretty unusual ruling.

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The local cardroom near me uses this rule for tournaments (any chips past the betting line stay in the pot). Of course they have an actual betting line so it's not as bad.

This seems very open to angle-shooting, especially for players who use chips as card protectors. What if you lift your cards for a peek and your chip slides forward. Can the raiser rule that as a call for the full raise?

[AKQJ10]

You've just nailed the reason why I prefer to use non-playing chips from other casinos.

That and I like to show off my tiny collection, but you nailed the practical reason.

[EJXD2]

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That and I like to show off my tiny collection.

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If it's a "tiny collection" then what's too show off? Further, how many of these chips do you walk around with? Do you protect your cards with a stack of ten casino chips from varying locales? If you only bring one chip with you at a time, then who would even think that your one chip is part of a collection?

[AKQJ10]

I should know that no imprecision will go unpunished. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I only use one at a time. I maybe carry three or so on a B&M trip because on occasion I change them around (maybe gives the impression I'm supersitious, who knows?). So you're right, I'm not showing off my collection, I'm showing off an element or two from my collection.

I felt the need to point out my collection is tiny because I know there are some serious chip collectors here and I wouldn't claim to encroach on their territory. I'm just an accumulator.

[pa3lsvt]

In a tourney (all I play), placing ANY amount of chips in the pot, but less than the calling amount, is construed as a call. You will be forced to fix your bet to the correct amount and not allowed to string raise (as always).

Exception: If you toss a T25 chip (or some unrealisticly small amount) after someone has gone all in for T6000, it's pretty apparent you clearly misunderstand the amount of the bet, and you (probably) will be allowed to take your chip back and redo your action. If a nit calls the floor, you may be forced to call but that would generally be a pretty bad ruling.

[daryn]

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In a tourney (all I play), placing ANY amount of chips in the pot, but less than the calling amount, is construed as a call. You will be forced to fix your bet to the correct amount and not allowed to string raise (as always).


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it's amazing that you could be so wrong, you know.. considering tourneys are all you play