*Official* HSP 8/14

[archangel]

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okay, I'll be the first idiot to say it:

easy laydown with the 4th nuts.

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I don't know if you are joking, but against anyone else (with similar stack sizes) I think Daniel makes this laydown pretty easily. If Antonio did this, Daniel's cards would be insta-mucked. Is Gus really that much of a donkey to play 95, 85, 75, 65 this way? Probably, which is what made Daniel call. I can't imagine this being a bluff ever - not with how the turn action went. Still, what is 95 and 85 value-betting against here - AA? A one-card straight? I don't know how Hansen plays in cash games but if he plays even relatively decent, Negreanu could've thought about it for a long time and folded - I think he just 'had to see' in this instance.

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i'm only sorta joking...you reasoned it out pretty well..."had to see" for $176,000? Nah. I'm folding. No way Gus is raising anything other than a hand that can beat Daniel here. 85,57...he calls the river, he doesn't raise with it.

But then, I'm breaking even at $1/$2 NL, so WTF do I know?

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if you were in DN's spot, would you assume that Gus would C/R the river with 99 or 55 or 88? What hands would Gus have to put Daniel on to assume that would work?

[Dominic]

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okay, I'll be the first idiot to say it:

easy laydown with the 4th nuts.

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I don't know if you are joking, but against anyone else (with similar stack sizes) I think Daniel makes this laydown pretty easily. If Antonio did this, Daniel's cards would be insta-mucked. Is Gus really that much of a donkey to play 95, 85, 75, 65 this way? Probably, which is what made Daniel call. I can't imagine this being a bluff ever - not with how the turn action went. Still, what is 95 and 85 value-betting against here - AA? A one-card straight? I don't know how Hansen plays in cash games but if he plays even relatively decent, Negreanu could've thought about it for a long time and folded - I think he just 'had to see' in this instance.

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i'm only sorta joking...you reasoned it out pretty well..."had to see" for $176,000? Nah. I'm folding. No way Gus is raising anything other than a hand that can beat Daniel here. 85,57...he calls the river, he doesn't raise with it.

But then, I'm breaking even at $1/$2 NL, so WTF do I know?

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if you were in DN's spot, would you assume that Gus would C/R the river with 99 or 55 or 88? What hands would Gus have to put Daniel on to assume that would work?

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well see, I saw Gus's hole cards on that lil camera they put in the table, so I knew it was an easy laydown. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]