QQ very early in stars million gtd

[allenciox]

Ok, I am going to disagree with everyone else here. I think you played the hand perfectly, and betting the flop is overrated. How is betting the flop going to get you information? Suppose you bet the flop and get raised... are you getting raised because they have the king or are they making a move? If you bet the flop and get called --- are they slow-playing a King or calling with an underpair to your QQ hoping it is good?

This is a typical way-ahead way-behind situation. The only turn card that will worry you is an ace. Checking here keeps the pot small. Betting just inflates the pot without giving you any real information (unless they all fold, and how does that help you?).

Note how your checking the flop gave you information. The turn bet was definitely a call, then when the button flat-calls behind you, that should raise a red flag.

But the clincher is a river bet. It is unlikely the EP better has less than trip Kings. He makes a sizable bet after both opponents have shown strength. This is a bet designed to soak up as much money as possible. He doesn't think he is beat. He wants you to call. The fold is absolutely correct.

All you lost post-flop on this hand was a single half-pot bet. Yet you got the information you needed. If nobody had had a King in this situation, you would have probably made more money this way by helping them think their hand might be good.

[AceLuby]

Betting the flop here w/ 4 players to the flop is suicide. Out of 6 cards only one king kills us (KQ's got us by the nuts) and its early, I would go into c/f mode and be pissed my queens got such a crappy flop. You've got to lay down these big hands on unfavorable flops.

For those that advocate a bet on the flop, do we check if we get a caller? Because on a flop like this I'll float w/ air to try to take it away on the turn if it's folded to me. I also fold to that turn bet, esp if we aren't going to stay on a big river bet.