JJ: I feel lost

[bruin]

No reads on opponents. .5/1 full ring at pokerroom.

UTG limps, everyone folds to me on button, I raise with black JJ. SB folds. BB 3-bets, UTG cold calls, I make it four, they call (BB calls instantly if this is a tell)

Flop comes KK7 rainbow.
BB leads, UTG folds, I call (?)

Turn comes 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], putting 2 diamonds out there.
BB bets again, I fold.

Comments???

[bennyhana]

I think it's either raise or fold on the flop. If he 3-bets, you can safely fold.

[Big Folder]

Any idea what this guy will 3-bet with? If he is reasonable you have to raise this flop and see how he reacts. If he 3-bets you you can fold. If he calls down and c/r you on the turn you can fold. But you are ahead to a decent amount of hands here and he might think you are just trying to get headsup with the limper( i.e. almost like a steal situation)

[Kwaz]

Against standard opposition at microlimits, when 3bet preflop and a K or A fall on the flop - JJ and TT are toast 95% of the time.

I fold the flop.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

8 didnt change your hand and you didnt have the odds to draw to 2 outs so the play doesnt make sense.

just raise the flop and everything is easy

[Moster]

I'd raise the flop and go from there.
No way I'm folding though.

[fatherofmany]

I've nothing original to add, other than the fact that this is why I have such a hard time playing without reads. Any play you make could be very right or very wrong depending on your reads of both BB and UTG.

Even though I agree with Kwaz that you're often beat here in these games (doesn't come much more loose passive than the PR micros), I feel you have to raise the flop. If you hadn't capped, your image might survive a fold, but I can't help but think that folding there isn't going to cause people to put you in further difficult positions in future hands.

[The Vibesman]

Raise flop, bet/fold turn, check river behind is how I like it.

[michaliv]

I would probably raise the flop here. If he reraises then I would fold. If he just calls, I would probably just check/call him down. He may have a smaller pair than you here or Ax.

[sean c]

Hi Bruin i think this is a terrible fold for a couple of reasons. #1 you raised on the button. #2 there are 8 big bets in the pot when you folded.

Call down or fold the flop. FWIW i would not fold here without a very strong read.