QQ very early in stars million gtd

[Bakes]

I dunno, heads up checking the flop maybe but I am betting this 100% of the time as the PFR, clean out the draws and rag aces before you see somehting you hate on the turn. Also, what do you do if the button pots it and the BB calls? Fold? Bet for information and value.

[runout_mick]

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what do you do if the button pots it and the BB calls? Fold? Bet for information and value.

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On this one, I was prepared to fold the flop to action, lead the turn if it checked sround.

The BB betting the turn threw me and I was lost.

I was just scared of cont betting into this many donks (the early million crowd), figured someone had to have KJ soooted or something.

[Bakes]

Well someone could certainly have you beat, but it is unlikely. It does not cost a significant portion of your stack to bet, so do it with pleasure. I would also bet the turn if I was smoothcalled, and fold to basically any raise.

Theres no reason not to think your ahead, would you take the same line with AA? Probably not, assume you have the best hand at this point until someone tells you different.

[runout_mick]

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would you take the same line with AA?

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Good point, TY.

[adanthar]

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Would you take the same line with AA?

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I frequently would. But you should still bet here, not because you think you have the best hand, but because it's cheaper to find out now than over 2 streets.

[jwhitesj]

That's why you keep the bet small and that's why they give you plenty of chips to start with, a 100-150 chip bet isn't going to hurt you to much here

[allenciox]

Ok, I am going to disagree with everyone else here. I think you played the hand perfectly, and betting the flop is overrated. How is betting the flop going to get you information? Suppose you bet the flop and get raised... are you getting raised because they have the king or are they making a move? If you bet the flop and get called --- are they slow-playing a King or calling with an underpair to your QQ hoping it is good?

This is a typical way-ahead way-behind situation. The only turn card that will worry you is an ace. Checking here keeps the pot small. Betting just inflates the pot without giving you any real information (unless they all fold, and how does that help you?).

Note how your checking the flop gave you information. The turn bet was definitely a call, then when the button flat-calls behind you, that should raise a red flag.

But the clincher is a river bet. It is unlikely the EP better has less than trip Kings. He makes a sizable bet after both opponents have shown strength. This is a bet designed to soak up as much money as possible. He doesn't think he is beat. He wants you to call. The fold is absolutely correct.

All you lost post-flop on this hand was a single half-pot bet. Yet you got the information you needed. If nobody had had a King in this situation, you would have probably made more money this way by helping them think their hand might be good.

[AceLuby]

Betting the flop here w/ 4 players to the flop is suicide. Out of 6 cards only one king kills us (KQ's got us by the nuts) and its early, I would go into c/f mode and be pissed my queens got such a crappy flop. You've got to lay down these big hands on unfavorable flops.

For those that advocate a bet on the flop, do we check if we get a caller? Because on a flop like this I'll float w/ air to try to take it away on the turn if it's folded to me. I also fold to that turn bet, esp if we aren't going to stay on a big river bet.