Is there any game more misplayed than this one by the average player?

[JMAnon]

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Poker books. . . . Most people aren't very intelligent . . ., and without someone to take them by the hand and show them how to play, they can't figure it out on their own.

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[Assani Fisher]

So getting back to one of my initial questions: Are the other non-HE games such as stud also played as poorly even at the higher levels?

[Kuso]

i've seen some pretty atrocious HU/SH LHE play up to 100/200.

actually, there seems to be some really bad HU/SH play in every game i've ever observed, but LHE is the only one i feel competent enough in to comment on.

[Xellos]

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So getting back to one of my initial questions: Are the other non-HE games such as stud also played as poorly even at the higher levels?

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I don't play high limits, but in 15/30 Stud 8 I've had hundreds of hands with opponents capping 5th/6th street against me when they're drawing dead and can do no better than win half the pot. I've been called by no pair when I'm showing 4 low cards quite a few times and I was recently called when my opponent couldn't beat my upcards. Unfortunately Stud 8 is like the worst game ever to multitable, combined with no game selection, making it something best played while watching TV for some relaxing free money.

[Assani Fisher]

Interesting. I don't think I'm nearly as skilled in stud 8 as O/8, but I'd definitely be willing to learn. With that lack of game selection, do you think it'd be worth my time to seriously pursue it?

[Xellos]

I suck at Omaha 8, but I'm guessing that at the middle limits like 10/20-30/60 plenty of people make absolutely terrible calls in the hopes of miracling half the pot their way just like they do in Stud 8.

[DPCondit]

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I suck at Omaha 8, but I'm guessing that at the middle limits like 10/20-30/60 plenty of people make absolutely terrible calls in the hopes of miracling half the pot their way just like they do in Stud 8.

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That is correct.

[Fiasco]

1. If theyre drawing to half the pot then they arent drawing dead.
2. In stud8, opponents are often getting the correct odds to make calls that look really horrible. I dont think that its possible to mess up limit stud8 as badly as PLO8 without really trying.

[Habib Marwan]

Your flop call in hand 1 sucks.

[Xellos]

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1. If theyre drawing to half the pot then they arent drawing dead.
2. In stud8, opponents are often getting the correct odds to make calls that look really horrible. I dont think that its possible to mess up limit stud8 as badly as PLO8 without really trying.

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If my opponent caps with 2 high pair/trips on 5th/6th against my low+straight draw, they are drawing dead. They cannot win the pot, they can only lose it or get their money back.