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Old 08-12-2006, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Eyes Wide Shut.......What Does It All Mean???

I can. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] And it's far more brilliant than the "score" of Eyes Wide Shut.

Sometimes, there's just no there there.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:40 PM
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Andy- I can appreciate that you didn't like the film. I will defend the score to a degree however. Yes, it is basic, dissonant, and any talentless hack can play it. But, what I don't think you're seeing is that it is not complexity, but atmosphere. The score for Jaws is one of the most widely acclaimed in the business and it is not of particular difficulty to play. EWS's score is embedded beautifully within the happenings on screen and adds a great deal to the tension and mystery of the themes. That is what makes it outstanding.
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:49 PM
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Its one thing to not get or like a film...this is the case with me for many great films. But its another thing to claim a film is horrible when even a semi-retarded person can tell it is a very good if not great work of art..but is simply not their cup of tea.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:49 AM
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Even great artists create terrible works of art. The finale of Beethoven's 8th symphony, for example, is a travesty. I'm a Kubrick fan; I thought A Clockwork Orange, when I first saw it, was the best movie I'd ever seen. I think Nicole Kidman is far and away the best actress in cinema today. I had ran to see Eyes Wide Shut in eager and excited anticipation. This movie and Kidman's performance in it were horribly disappointing, not because they weren't my cup of tea, but because they were forced, slow-paced, stilted, and irrelevant.
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Eyes Wide Shut.......What Does It All Mean???

You bring up some valid points.

I would love if the movie hadn't been filmed with a real-life married couple as the 2 lead characters. There is no way this didn't negatively impact Kubrick's goal.

But I think you are being too harsh. Attacking a score because it is basic? Huh? Complexity does not equal quality. Take Eddie Van Halen's solos. Very complex, yet every one of them is out of context. Bad.
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:20 AM
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Take Eddie Van Halen's solos. Very complex, yet every one of them is out of context. Bad.

[/ QUOTE ]Say whaaaaa??????? I would have to rate this the most incorrect statement ever on 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-13-2006, 05:40 PM
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Take Eddie Van Halen's solos. Very complex, yet every one of them is out of context. Bad.

[/ QUOTE ]Say whaaaaa??????? I would have to rate this the most incorrect statement ever on 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Eddie's solos are totally arbitrary. You could mix and match them and nobody would know the difference. This is why Halen will never be amongst the top eschelon of 6-stringers.
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:03 PM
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Yes, you're right about the score. Kurbick's use of music thoughout his career was wonderful; 2001, of course, comes immediately to mind. And the songs of Irving Berlin and Paul McCartney, to name two prominent examples, are simple and unsophisticated, yet they certainly speak to us and have withstood the test of time.

It was just that those single piano notes endlessly repeated drove me nuts. Perhaps that was the point.
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Old 08-13-2006, 06:44 AM
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I can, too. In fact, I could play it when I was two years old. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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