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Old 08-08-2006, 05:41 PM
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Give them a break guys, there are like 3 whole tables going on, have you ever tried to actually pay attention to 3 tables at once, it's mass confusion and hysteria!

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No, you really should give them a break. From what some others have posted in blogs, even with their supperior access, it isn't like they get to sit at the tables, and counting the stacks can't be that easy. Not all bets are delcared outloud. So, yeah, I wish it was better, but aren't we glad we have it at all?

I am so weary of the CP bashing ... get over it already.

NCAces

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That they're clearly not proofing what they post, or have any kind of quality control, all while being the official online voice of the WSOP, is pretty sad.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:41 PM
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Wow, i'm sad to say it was a terrible play by Rizen.

Why? Why? Why risk over 2 million to win $600,000 against the chip leader? With ace-rag?

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Holy Jesus Balls. I can't believe all the results-oriented BS that has gone on on this site since Rizen busted. I mean, if it was me that did it, I can understand, because who am I. But Rizen has proven himself. Gold just had a hand. I guarantee if the update was:

Lynch wins big pot vs Gold
Eric 'Rizen' Lynch limps in. Jaime Gold raises to $500,000. Lynch moves allin for $2 million total. Gold thinks and folds, and Rizen has added a sizable chunk to his stack.

Then there would have been 50,000 posts of "pwned" and "bout time someone stood up to Gold." I guarantee the move was +cev, and certainly good for Gold to know Rizen couldn't be pushed around. Unfortunately, Gold had a hand, and somehow did what I can never do and beat ace-undercard with a pocket pair.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Rizen Hand Clarification from P5\'s

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Cunningham busts O'Donnell AA v KK

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Link to hands?
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:43 PM
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Thought Process on the final hand
by Lenny on 8/8/2006 15:57


Rizen limped with A-6 knowing the chip leader would raise with anything. Gold did raise to about 500k and Eric went ahead and pushed for about 2 million. Gold had a hand again with Tens and called easily.

"Maybe it was a bad play, maybe not. I thought he would be raising any two and if he has a hand maybe I get lucky."

Eric is obviously disappointed with the way he finished but he can be very proud of how he played this tournament as a whole. Great game Rizen, we'll see you online!

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Any non-2p2er lrr's with A6o and he gets roasted here

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Totally agree. I like the play, but not with that particular hand. Here I go trying to discuss hands without being there though.

Also, I think Gold's calling range is probably wider than people are speculating.

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I'd rather do it with a hand like 89s than a dominated hand like A6
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:43 PM
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Cunningham busts O'Donnell AA v KK

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1. Jamie Gold 18,300,000

2. Allen Cunningham 11,750,000

3. Dan Nassif 6,225,000


Cunningham is looking great right now.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Rizen Hand Clarification from P5\'s

From Vorhaus:


Kevin O'Donnell just got eliminated in the way good players get eliminated from tournaments like these: He got in on the wrong side of a K-K versus A-A confrontation. And who was on the right side? None other than AC, Allen Cunningham.

O'Donnell opens for 180 UTG. It's folded to Cunningham in the big blind, who raises 450 more. O'Donnell pops him back for another million. AC moves O'Donnell all in for about another 3 million. O'Donnell calls immediately. Cunningham's chip count is now roughly 12.6m, and the formerly short-stacked AC has a firm grip on second place.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:43 PM
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Gold can't like seeing Cunningham gobbling up all these chips, mwhahaha
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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I'm not sure I know what Jeff Lisandro was thinking just now when he called Luke Chung's all in bet. Granted, he had Chung covered, about 3m to 1m, but still... pocket deuces is nothing to write home about, and even if Chung is completely out of line with a piece of cheese like, say, A-4 offsuit, that A-4 is still only a slight underdog to Lisandro's 2-2. As it happened, Chung had J-J, the jacks held up, and now Lisandro is down to about 2m in chips.

In essence, Lisandro took away his own best weapon with that play. He's been making hay this entire tournament by pushing other players around with strong moves, but now his stack is not big enough to threaten the big players at his table. Basically, he now has to wait for good cards, and with blinds alone costing almost 100k, the waiting game is not one you want to be playing right now.

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Have you guys heard of pot odds and folding equity. Also, the antes in a lieve tournament is not the same as online. They are playing 30/60/10, so 160 in the pot to start. Good players fight for the pot.

In this case Lisandro had probably raised and was reraised, so he was getting significant pot odds. Plus he is the favorite over over cards.

Like I say, the people waiting for premium hands and good flops have already been blinded out.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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GO DOUG...GO ALLEN.....#$$#@!!@#$$ GOLDMEMBER
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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Cunningham busts O'Donnell AA v KK

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1. Jamie Gold 18,300,000

2. Allen Cunningham 11,750,000

3. Dan Nassif 6,225,000


Cunningham is looking great right now.

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A real threat to Gold emerges at last!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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