Fossilman's Account Hacked?

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in my experience, most fat guys are generally unhappy with their own lives and tend to lash out more than others.

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Do most fat people have $2M+?

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lol you cant say something about a other player without ppl think they hate eachother? I think this shouldnt be blown up

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also reading the fcp forum I find them pretty immature

[CaryDarling]

For those who thinkt he lawsuit is stupid, really need to read the terms they are agreeing to before they play in a WPT event.

Now, don't get me wrong. I agree, the WPT has helped take poker to that next level where some of these players can make a damn fine living without really having to risk any money at all...HOWEVER.

When you sign the release to play in a WPT event you give them rights to use your image throughout the "universe" "in perpituity." That is what it says on the contract.

What does that mean? If they ever opened a casino on Jupiter, they can use your image to promote it whether that is tomorrow, or 1,000,000 years from now.

You don't like it? Then don't play in any WPT events. Well guess what? They locked up the good ones.

Do you realise how this can conflict with a player's current endorsement deals?

Howard Lederer has a poker video game, WPT creates one, uses Lederer's image on theirs to help compete with his own.

Once again. If you don't want to play by their rules, then go play elsewhere. But where can these players then play? They're effectively being strong armed into signing what could hopefully be ruled an unenforceable contract, their ability to play and earn a living is hindered. Sound a bit like a monopoly?

You guys sit on here and bitch about Harrah's all day long. The problems will only get worse, because Poker is a game with no teams, the players are in it for themselves, so there will be no concerted effort to take down the giants, or at least bring them to a bargaining table to help the players gain a bit of equity.

[Tornado69]

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For those who thinkt he lawsuit is stupid, really need to read the terms they are agreeing to before they play in a WPT event.

Now, don't get me wrong. I agree, the WPT has helped take poker to that next level where some of these players can make a damn fine living without really having to risk any money at all...HOWEVER.

When you sign the release to play in a WPT event you give them rights to use your image throughout the "universe" "in perpituity." That is what it says on the contract.

What does that mean? If they ever opened a casino on Jupiter, they can use your image to promote it whether that is tomorrow, or 1,000,000 years from now.

You don't like it? Then don't play in any WPT events. Well guess what? They locked up the good ones.

Do you realise how this can conflict with a player's current endorsement deals?

Howard Lederer has a poker video game, WPT creates one, uses Lederer's image on theirs to help compete with his own.

Once again. If you don't want to play by their rules, then go play elsewhere. But where can these players then play? They're effectively being strong armed into signing what could hopefully be ruled an unenforceable contract, their ability to play and earn a living is hindered. Sound a bit like a monopoly?



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There's MANY other tournaments in different casinos across the world now. WSOP circuit events, EPT events and other non televised tournaments occur everyday in casinos all over the place. Cash games are run everday as well in every single casino and there are big enough games to make a living at as well. Bobby's Room always has some higher limit games for people to play and people have been making a living there playing in those games for years. I'm not saying the WPT release form is fair either, but it's their tournaments and there's only 17 or so a year. Go elsewhere and play if you don't like it because their are poker games all over the world. This lawsuit is ridiculous.

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Raymer is an attorney. Negreanu is a high school dropout. In judging the merits of a lawsuit, I'd say Raymer might have some insights that Daniel does not.

[waxie]

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For those who thinkt he lawsuit is stupid, really need to read the terms they are agreeing to before they play in a WPT event.

Now, don't get me wrong. I agree, the WPT has helped take poker to that next level where some of these players can make a damn fine living without really having to risk any money at all...HOWEVER.

When you sign the release to play in a WPT event you give them rights to use your image throughout the "universe" "in perpituity." That is what it says on the contract.

What does that mean? If they ever opened a casino on Jupiter, they can use your image to promote it whether that is tomorrow, or 1,000,000 years from now.

You don't like it? Then don't play in any WPT events. Well guess what? They locked up the good ones.

Do you realise how this can conflict with a player's current endorsement deals?

Howard Lederer has a poker video game, WPT creates one, uses Lederer's image on theirs to help compete with his own.

Once again. If you don't want to play by their rules, then go play elsewhere. But where can these players then play? They're effectively being strong armed into signing what could hopefully be ruled an unenforceable contract, their ability to play and earn a living is hindered. Sound a bit like a monopoly?

You guys sit on here and bitch about Harrah's all day long. The problems will only get worse, because Poker is a game with no teams, the players are in it for themselves, so there will be no concerted effort to take down the giants, or at least bring them to a bargaining table to help the players gain a bit of equity.

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This is the smartest post in the thread thus far.

[Assani Fisher]

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For those who thinkt he lawsuit is stupid, really need to read the terms they are agreeing to before they play in a WPT event.

Now, don't get me wrong. I agree, the WPT has helped take poker to that next level where some of these players can make a damn fine living without really having to risk any money at all...HOWEVER.

When you sign the release to play in a WPT event you give them rights to use your image throughout the "universe" "in perpituity." That is what it says on the contract.

What does that mean? If they ever opened a casino on Jupiter, they can use your image to promote it whether that is tomorrow, or 1,000,000 years from now.

You don't like it? Then don't play in any WPT events. Well guess what? They locked up the good ones.

Do you realise how this can conflict with a player's current endorsement deals?

Howard Lederer has a poker video game, WPT creates one, uses Lederer's image on theirs to help compete with his own.

Once again. If you don't want to play by their rules, then go play elsewhere. But where can these players then play? They're effectively being strong armed into signing what could hopefully be ruled an unenforceable contract, their ability to play and earn a living is hindered. Sound a bit like a monopoly?

You guys sit on here and bitch about Harrah's all day long. The problems will only get worse, because Poker is a game with no teams, the players are in it for themselves, so there will be no concerted effort to take down the giants, or at least bring them to a bargaining table to help the players gain a bit of equity.

[/ QUOTE ]agreed.