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Old 07-28-2006, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Moderating The Forums: a suggestion

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but I belive that he wants more discussion based on fact and less propoganda encouraging "hate".

Is that really so difficult?


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I think it is. In a forum like politics it's very hard to determine what's propaganda encouraging hate. For example, I remember many posts encouraging the nuking of Iran with links to what I think to be "propaganda". I don't remember anybody terrible upset about those.
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:52 AM
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And just because Mason stepped in when the topics were anti-semitic doesn't mean that he encourages hateful posts directed at Arabs or Muslims.He doesn't.



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Old 07-28-2006, 08:00 AM
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Guys. Keep in mind the bigger picture: we are a website that was originally created to promote a publishing company specializing in books on poker/ gambling.


If we can't get a handle on the best way to moderate a low-traffic politics forum, who the ef cares? We'll shut it down.

I sincerely appreciate those of you who put effort into making suggestions about the forums. And I'll continue to do my best to implement them to everyone's benefit as best I can.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:31 AM
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We are a website that was originally created to promote a publishing company specializing in books on poker/ gambling.

[/ QUOTE ]Honda originally wanted to sell small bikes; Gates' ambition was originally to sell an operating program to IBM; Mick Jagger originally wanted to sing only Muddy Waters blues. And so on.

There has been a paradigm shift in poker, Mat. Seize the day.

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If we can't get a handle on the best way to moderate a low-traffic politics forum, who the ef cares? We'll shut it down.

[/ QUOTE ]Hmm. I wonder why supermarkets are wasting space to sell gasoline at cost. Maybe you should re-check the notion of Loss Leader.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:53 AM
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If we can't get a handle on the best way to moderate a low-traffic politics forum, who the ef cares? We'll shut it down.

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Hmm. I wonder why supermarkets are wasting space to sell gasoline at cost. Maybe you should re-check the notion of Loss Leader.

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Posts in the Politics forum account for just 2% of the activity on the forums. I'd bet they account for even less of the active posters on the forums.

The Politics forum doesn't remotely resemble a loss leader.

You're on thin ice Cyrus and you know it. Distorting the facts whether it's about jews or management of the forums isn't going to do you any good.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:57 AM
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If we can't get a handle on the best way to moderate a low-traffic politics forum, who the ef cares? We'll shut it down.

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Hmm. I wonder why supermarkets are wasting space to sell gasoline at cost. Maybe you should re-check the notion of Loss Leader.

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Posts in the Politics forum account for just 2% of the activity on the forums. I'd bet they account for even less of the active posters on the forums.

The Politics forum doesn't remotely resemble a loss leader.

You're on thin ice Cyrus and you know it. Distorting the facts whether it's about jews or management of the forums isn't going to do you any good.

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....you know, Dynasty,

It is exactly this kind of post that encourages the further polarization surrounding this issue.

Is it too much to ask you to be constructively pro-active without resorting to ad hominem attacks?
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:01 AM
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Is it too much to ask you to be constructively pro-active without resorting to ad hominem attacks?

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The most constructive thing I can do as it pertains to Cyrus is to tell him the truth. His anti-semetic postings aren't going to be allowed anymore. If he shows his true colors again, I expect it to be the last time we see him on the forums.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:23 PM
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....you know, Dynasty,

It is exactly this kind of post that encourages the further polarization surrounding this issue.

Is it too much to ask you to be constructively pro-active without resorting to ad hominem attacks?


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I think [censored] needs to start banning people for calling things ad hominem when they're not. It's getting incredibly annoying.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:14 AM
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The Politics forum doesn't remotely resemble a loss leader.

[/ QUOTE ] You just wrote that the Politics Forum is no big deal ("accounts for just 2% of the activity"). I'd say that this is a "losing" page, if we so measure by hits (activity), wouldn't you?

And a loss leader is a product that is offered at cost (even at loss) in order to attract clients to other, profitable endeavors. This is how I see the little Politics forum here, no more and no less. Just MHO.

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You're on thin ice Cyrus and you know it. Distorting the facts ... about ... management of the forums isn't going to do you any good.

[/ QUOTE ] I have no idea what you're talking about. I thought I was presenting some suggestions on how to improve clarity of rules. Why the renewed warnings ? What am I "distorting" now ?
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:19 AM
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The Politics forum doesn't remotely resemble a loss leader.

[/ QUOTE ] You just wrote that the Politics Forum is no big deal ("accounts for just 2% of the activity"). I'd say that this is a "losing" page, if we so measure by hits (activity), wouldn't you?

And a loss leader is a product that is offered at cost (even at loss) in order to attract clients to other, profitable endeavors. This is how I see the little Politics forum here, no more and no less. Just MHO.

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You're on thin ice Cyrus and you know it. Distorting the facts ... about ... management of the forums isn't going to do you any good.

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I have no idea what you're talking about. I thought I was presenting some suggestions on how to improve clarity of rules. Why the renewed warnings ? What am I "distorting" now ?

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You can be argumentative and feign ignorance all you want. But, it's not going to change the reality of the situation.
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