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Old 07-25-2006, 02:10 PM
brentlip brentlip is offline
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Default Q9s marginal hand play

MP3 is a TAG with 10.4/6/1.9 after 719 hands. BB is terrible. He'll bluff anything and shows down a lot of high card hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Q9s marginal hand play

I wouldn't be too worried about BB, but MP3 is a little of a concern. I certainly like a call here and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing. MP3 could very well be holding AQ. I'd probably just call and weigh my options on the turn.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:14 PM
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Raise sounds good to me. If MP3 had a Q he'd probably raise the flop with a 1.9 af.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM
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What exact flop where you hoping for with this? What hands with a Q does a TAG limp with? I'd figure him for KJ or a pp that didn't hit. I think you raise here and hope BB has a T and 3 bets to get rid of MP3. But really, this is probably a fold pre-flop.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM
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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM
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MP3 is a TAG with 10.4/6/1.9 after 719 hands.

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We really need new labels. Maybe STAG would be better (Super tight).

I'd just call and see what happens on the turn. You've got position on the STAG and the donktastipotamus, so you might as well use it.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM
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I'd raise with what's likely the best hand.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:19 PM
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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.

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I don't know how often hero is ahead of the guy who only plays 11% of his hands.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:21 PM
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Ok, I raised for value figuring MP3 would've probably raised if he had a Q and I wasn't worried about BB. How about the turn...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero ???
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:24 PM
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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.

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I don't know how often hero is ahead of the guy who only plays 11% of his hands.

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Since he pf-raises 6% of them, you know he doesn't have the best ones... he has the borderline ones. Maybe KQ, but he has a high aggression, so I'd expect a raise out of him.

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