Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP

[TomCollins]

I would almost never fold here if I'm Hellmuth.

[Jurollo]

There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat.
~Justin

[AcesUp]

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There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat.


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Ummmm...AK?


-Aces

[JackOfSpeed]

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There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat.


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Ummmm...AK?


-Aces

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Yeah, and why not AA or QQ? Explain pls.

[Black Aces 518]

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There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat.


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Ummmm...AK?


-Aces

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Yeah, I was wondering about why he couldn't have AK there. Jurollo, are you assuming that he would call in position with AK there and not reraise? Or are you assuming he would pot control/allow Hellmuth to stab, since there aren't many danger cards (the 67 allows a str8 draw, but not extremely likely).

[AcesUp]

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There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat.


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Ummmm...AK?


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Yeah, I was wondering about why he couldn't have AK there. Jurollo, are you assuming that he would call in position with AK there and not reraise? Or are you assuming he would pot control/allow Hellmuth to stab, since there aren't many danger cards (the 67 allows a str8 draw, but not extremely likely).

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Problem here is that the EV for waiting until the turn against Hellmuth is low. If Hellmuth has a decent piece of this board, he is much more likely to call a big bet on the flop (suspecting a bluff) than he is to put in a lot of money on the turn. In my experience, on the turn, he'd likely make a small probe bet and fold to any raise.

So, IMO, the correct play in this situation with AK against Hellmuth would be to push the flop. But, with the actual hand (a bluff with AT), I think he had a much better chance of taking it down if he waited until the turn.

-Aces

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There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat.
~Justin

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