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Old 07-17-2006, 11:05 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game. Too bad cuz I like his style but he's playing against some real high stakes players here who won't just fold to his raises.


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Yeah, he needs to move back down to where they respect his raises.
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Old 07-18-2006, 01:16 AM
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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game. Too bad cuz I like his style but he's playing against some real high stakes players here who won't just fold to his raises.


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Yeah, he needs to move back down to where they respect his raises.

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It's not a matter of respect. At these stakes with most of these players - the ones with lots of high stakes experience - it's harder to push them off a hand and there's a better than average chance that they will come back over the top with a bluff, just as Harmon did. Esfandiari has a good game but from what I see (and I'll grant that I'm not seeing very many hands) he isn't in the same class as some of the others. Same for Laak. Same for Grinder. Very good players but not yet at the level of a Chan, Negraneu, Harmon, Greenstein, Forrest and some others.
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:44 AM
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Esfandiari has a good game but from what I see (and I'll grant that I'm not seeing very many hands) he isn't in the same class as some of the others. Same for Laak.

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I think Esfandiari and Laak have both looked pretty good so far.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:58 AM
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"A9 vs A8. Flop: 889, perfect cold-deck."

Uhhmmm...

STFU STFU STFU STFU STFU
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:30 AM
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seriously, brunson, wtf w/ak...?
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:42 AM
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seriously, brunson, wtf w/ak...?

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If Negreanu had 99,1010, or JJ and folded people would've been calling Todd a genius. Just like last week when DN folded the nut flush to Todd's bet.
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:58 AM
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in the preview for next week, the new canadian player.. is that "krisqueen" from internet fame by any chance? i know he's canadian and a very good player.
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Old 07-18-2006, 12:00 PM
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I would have done the same thing Antonio did with those queens after he rebought. I can think of many of times where I lost my buyin, had to rebuy, picked up a huge hand and the same thing happened to me except I kept going with the hand and got busted again ... which then leads to MORE tilt ... he got away from the hand cheap and decided to move onto the next one. If Harmon had a king I believe she would have played the hand the exact same way trying to trick Antonio into calling because he wouldn't believe she would keep leading into him with top pair and then trips on the turn.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:54 PM
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seriously, brunson, wtf w/ak...?

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If Negreanu had 99,1010, or JJ and folded people would've been calling Todd a genius. Just like last week when DN folded the nut flush to Todd's bet.

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The problem with the push is that it's unnecessary. If DN has 99 1010, etc., with a pot of $50k he is more likely to call a $97k bet than say a $40-50k bet.

I watched last years Pot limit final table at the WSOP. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd event. Flack is playing a pot with that young kid -- first name Tom. There are 4 people left and the two of them are by far the big stacks, the other two players are not even close. There is big preflop action (I think Layne bets the pot, Tom reraises the pot and Layne reraises him and Tom calls).

Anway, the flop comes something like JT5r, Tom immediately pushes (he had quite a bit left) and Layne instantly calls. Turns out Tom had AK and Layne only had AT. I could not believe Layne made this call so quickly. I saw him a few days later and he told me that the only hand that Tom pushes so quickly with given the preflop action was AK (e.g., he loved his hand preflop but what hand would he love and be so quick to overbet the pot given that flop. If he hit anything he probably either value bets or thinks about it for a bit). Brunson's push was similar.

BTW, Tom was left with a bit more than the blinds but managed to double up a few times, get heads-up with Layne and beat him for the bracelet. It was pretty impressive. It was a shame it wasn't televised.
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Old 07-20-2006, 04:09 PM
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seriously, brunson, wtf w/ak...?

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Nobody thinks Daniel calling the large limp-rer-raise with AQ is worse?

He called a raise that was 1/3 of Todd's stack with AQ. Seems very bad to me. What's he going to do when he whiffs the flop?
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