Vegas 8/16-10/20 or Commerce 9/18?

[the_doantster]

I play the Commerce 9-18 regularly, it's a good game, the players are by far the loosest players I have ever played against. If you play a tight aggressive game you should do good there but be prepared for the occasional bad beat.

[sternroolz]

I play all three. My play is almost exclusively late night(after 9pm until 3 or 4am) on weekends. I contend that the daytime $9-18 at Commerce is too tight for even a good player to overcome the rake. Daytime $8-16 and $10-20 in Vegas is not ever worth bothering with most of the year.

Commerce $9-18. I have over 600 hours the past two years and beating it for $27 an hour Its very beatable...ridiculously so. Most of the players are awful. If you can beat $6-12 LHE anywhere, you can beat this game. But be aware that the games are so loose that swings are wicked bad. My worst downswing was over $3K. If you are just taking a shot over a weekend....a $1800 BR should suffice. Any less than that and you risk going busto on day 1.

Vegas $8-16. There is a game at Bellagio and a game at Wynn. Wynn is nicer and you don't have to think F.U. about any of the employees, but the games are much tougher on average than Bellagio. Lines are long. The game is no where near as good as Commerce's $9-18 but the rake is cheaper, drinks are free, and variance is low. Play standard LHEFAP and you will do fine.

Mirage $10-20: Some people don't like this game. But I do not think it is tough at all. Play a modified LHEFAP, being extremely aggressive in position. Steal and bluff a lot, except against the old guy with the glasses and the crazy hair. He is a decent player, but calls down with anything if he thinks you bluff. When the games gets loose(and it will if you get caught bluffing a couple times) adjust your game back to TAG.

Overall, it really depends why you are going.....are you wanting poker exclusively, or

[the_doantster]

what do you look like stern? if you're a regular there i'm sure i've ran into you a few times.

[csuf_gambl0or]

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what do you look like stern? if you're a regular there i'm sure i've ran into you a few times.

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stern has a striking resembelance to Craig Feldspar from Malcolm in the Middle [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[VBCurtis]

Stern: thanks for the detail; it was all I was hoping for.

I understand 150hr isn't a big sample (~5000 hands), but it's what I have. I also have ~10K hands as a winner at 1/2 online to support my belief than I can beat 4/8 and 6/12 live, as well as non-results observations.

I've had only bad experiences at Bellagio, so I'll sweat the Wynn 8 next week, and plan on playing commerce 9 when I can tolerate a $1200 shot without bankroll worry.

Thanks again for not flaming my first thread.
-curtis

[csuf_gambl0or]

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My worst downswing was over $3K.



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I am getting close to that number in the 9/18. Actually between the commerce 9 and the 20, and the oceans 8/16, i am down $5k since summer started. I played at oceans a few times after that jackpot situation at commerce, however the longer drive kinda got to me and i have reverted back to the commerce 9. if i hit another table share, then so be it.

you still play the 9? i thought you had moved to the 20? i was in the 9, last friday. the games were no where near as wild as i wanted and i dropped a rack.

[thirddan]

the last couple times ive played the 9 i haven't been that impressed...seems hit/miss last few months...

[csuf_gambl0or]

well fug. i just got back from oceans. dropped another $700 in the 8 game.

there is no end in sight.

[VBCurtis]

csuf-- how many BB will you lose before considering that you might not be playing your A game? From all I have read here, a 200BB downswing in live games 15 or smaller is really rare. You are approaching 300BB, no? What keeps happening in these games that has you down ~$6K?
-Curtis

[thebeebster]

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From all I have read here, a 200BB downswing in live games 15 or smaller is really rare.
-Curtis

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say what now?