Who is a Democrat and who is a Republican?

[Machinehead]

3rd parties may have no chance in the presidential elections, but they might have a fighting chance in some smaller elections.

[Copernicus]

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And successful third parties have often forced significant real changes in the two big parties.

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Such as?

[Zeno]

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Voting is irrational.

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So is life. Stop complaining.




In my opinion, everyone should be able to sell their vote on the open market. I think selling your vote to the highest bidder is, if not rational, at least profitable. It simply makes open what occurs in a more subtle way through the political process anyway.

-Zeno

[Copernicus]

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Voting is irrational.

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So is life. Stop complaining.




In my opinion, everyone should be able to sell their vote on the open market. I think selling your vote to the highest bidder is, if not rational, at least profitable. It simply makes open what occurs in a more subtle way through the political process anyway.

-Zeno

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Gotta give the Republicans some time to catch up marketing techniques if youre going to do that.

[Iplayboard]

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I very foolishly voted Kerry in '04

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[Borodog]

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Voting is irrational.

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So is life.

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Purple monkey dishwasher.

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Stop complaining.

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It wasn't a complaint. It was an observation.

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In my opinion, everyone should be able to sell their vote on the open market. I think selling your vote to the highest bidder is, if not rational, at least profitable. It simply makes open what occurs in a more subtle way through the political process anyway.

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Sounds like selling your slot in the lynch mob to me.

[matrix]

How many Republicans or Democrats out there actualy believe that US elections are fair and the guy that wins is the guy that most people voted for?

Before you answer I offer into evidence exhibit a)

Counting all the votes: why not? In America we don’t and that’s not much of an issue for any politician elected under the current system. THREE-MILLION, SIX-HUNDRED THOUSAND THREE-HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ballots were cast in the last election AND NEVER COUNTED: “spoiled” ballots, “provisional” ballots and “deficient” absentee ballots. And — ready for this — 88% of the ballots not counted were cast by voters of color.

This non-count doubled from the 2000 election and will double again for 2006 and 2008 unless we make it an issue. We are not getting the will of the people under
an apartheid voting system.

By the way, these figures are not from my black helicopter, but from data available from the United States Elections Assistance Commission. The racial calcs I did (I used to teach statistics) with professors from Cleveland State, Harvard and the US Civil Rights Commission. Not that you’d read about it in the US papers - source

[BillUCF]

I am sure Democrats and Republicans are guilty of vote rigging and statistically they probably cancel each other out.

Your data and/or source is incorrect concerning the votes cast by people of color. That level of consipracy is impossible to pull off.

The ability pull off a consipracy is inversely proportional to the number of people involved in the conspiracy.

Statistical reporting can easily be skewed by biased sampling, level of calculation, error of measurement, and political agenda.

If you really knew how statistics work you would not be throwing out a precise number such as 88% without including an error range.

Also, you cannot extrapolate the non-count vote with any degree of confidence for the next two elections based only on data since 2000.

You obviously know nothing about basic statistics and I feel sorry for any students you allegedly attempted to teach.

[Copernicus]

Ignore matrix. First hes a chef whos worked with the greats in Europe, but insisted that salt lowers the boiling point of water, now hes a former statistics professor who doesnt have a clue about statistics.

Hes a liar and a troll.

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It wasn't a complaint. It was an observation. Stop being an [censored].



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No. And your observation was not sound at all. Voting is not irrational.

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In my opinion, everyone should be able to sell their vote on the open market. I think selling your vote to the highest bidder is, if not rational, at least profitable. It simply makes open what occurs in a more subtle way through the political process anyway.

-Zeno



Sounds like selling your slot in the lynch mob to me.

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Non sequitur.


-Yellow Monkey Snot.