I Keep Dreaming of This WSOP Hand...

[Black Aces 518]

I've been thinking about all these type of situations too. I think I would actually check behind the flop to exercise pot control. I'm not trying to go broke on the first hand with 200 BB and one pair. Obv. an ace or club on the turn sucks, but I hate the situation the bet puts you in worse. As played, I fold the flop.

I would bet the flop with 2 opponents, because it's more likely that the turn would turn my winner into a loser. The only hand where villain trails us on the flop and has more than a 25% chance of catching us on the turn is ace-suited of clubs, so I'm OK giving a card for free to greatly increase my chances of getting to showdown.

My plan for the turn is to bet 1200 if checked to, and to call a bet unless the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls.

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I think I would actually check behind the flop to exercise pot control.

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Anyone have thoughts on this?

My immediate reaction is that, aside from getting sucked out on occasionally, I think a decent amount of turn cards are either I) tough to play correctly or II) action killers against hands like 99-QQ, 89s, A8s, etc.

[mlagoo]

i think checking the flop is bad/dream results oriented. you get called by a lot of hands you're dominating (99-QQ), and reraised by very few of them (those dudes aren't trying to get broke with JJ on this flop either).

my pf rr would be to like 700 or so, btw. dump the flop to the raise.

[NoahSD]

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dream results oriented

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Nice!

I agree with what Pat/mlagoo said.

[Pat Southern]

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I think I would actually check behind the flop to exercise pot control.

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Anyone have thoughts on this?

My immediate reaction is that, aside from getting sucked out on occasionally, I think a decent amount of turn cards are either I) tough to play correctly or II) action killers against hands like 99-JJ, 89s, A8s, etc.

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I dislike checking this flop because its so coordinated, if he was calling with a suited connector we're giving him infinite odds to hit a gutshot/openender and have no clue where we stand. What do we do if he pots a blank turn? what do we if he pots a 7? or a club? Furthermore, if you get checkraised on the first hand of the WSOP by an unknown internet qualifier for half a stack, its more than likely that he beats one pair, so you dont have to worry about getting bluffed off the best hand IMHO. Execute pot control on a later street, not on this flop.

[graydot]

Dump the hand on hte flop. There is little reason to risk half of your stack on the first hand on a flop like that.

[rockin]

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Dump the hand on hte flop. There is little reason to risk half of your stack on the first hand on a flop like that.

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Is this serious? What hands did this flop improve?

[graydot]

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Dump the hand on hte flop. There is little reason to risk half of your stack on the first hand on a flop like that.

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Is this serious? What hands did this flop improve?

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Not many at all. We are ahead most of this time. But when I get checked-raised for 4500 (we start with 10k right?) , I am going to look for a better spot to double up then with 1 pair

Edit: NVM I misread the reraise. I push

[rockin]

Seems less likely to be a set and more likely to be an overpair. That being said there are few drawing hands, but this flop is not very scary for a caller of a raise and a REraise (preflop).