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Old 09-17-2005, 09:13 AM
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The last thing thing this guy needs is to turn to mysticism to solve his problems. Fantasy is probably what got him into trouble in the first place. (Assuming the whole story is not an entertaining fiction).
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:23 PM
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So---this one will get Larry-LookitMe back to tell us about the WSOP results, which I'm genuinely interested in, after he uses his dimestore lawyering skills to rip apart my gender and ethnicity like he did Blankstares.

Your first post read as if it came from your soul. It hooked me on to this thread. You were searching and laying your heart on the table simultaniously. I can respect that.

Your second thread was rehashing to yourself the many clever angles you have employed to overcome CLEAR mathmatical disadvantages. It was a literary representation of what got you so wound up by NL in the first place. You had found an audience to preform to, including us and yourself.

After that the only thing that came from your heart was the bite in your responses to criticism. That may have been what helped you succeed as a lawyer, but I've grown up around them and it is not a prereq'. Ya sound pretty miserable. your gauding it up in formal arguments was listening to a law-bot. Anyone can cut apart an argument. Build yours.

Now you can rip me.
I bought my first 2+2 last August, intending to get serious. Bought the standard library of 20 books and CD Roms, satted (it'll be a verb someday) my way into a few Scandinavian majors, didn't build [censored] for a bankroll but sustained, mostly because I like coke, work and family got in the way, and I wasn't playing to win.

Summer hit (i'm a teacher) and from May to July I earned a second (not huge, admittedly) wage while discovering blurred vision and DVD porn from coke binging. Had a little loss at high limit short handed, chased the money (number on the screen) by uppin the level, playin Omaha 8's, and then went to the casino with the credit card to get it back/beat the hell outta myself.

It worked.

Confessed all to my wife and myself in reverse order the next day--quit smoking cigarettes, gave her the gas card and everything else, stopped with wine at dinner, took the kids pickin blueberries. I haven't smoked or anything for 5 weeks. I consider myself quit. All debts are paid as i live cheap----and heres the [censored] up thing:

I'm wrestling to controll myself because I firmly believe self controll and money management are what keeps my from being a profit player.

Hows that for sick?!?! or logic?

You'll find lots of things that explain your actions, but nothing that justifies those actions.

Find the holes you got and plug em.
Set a long term goal, and then take measured steps to achieve them. Break them into short terms if you need to---sometimes you gotta live yourself into a new way of thinking.

Now rip away---but hell, then tell us how you did in the WaSSOP.

Good luck bud,
Tom
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:28 AM
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Godot-

Speaking from first hand knowledge a long rambling post, therapist, or more gambling won't fix your problems.

God is the only one who can change yor heart. He can provide you peace where you thought there could be none.
If you truly seek Him with all your heart He will reveal Himself to you.

There flame on I'm getting pretty good at defending my faith both scientificaly, and theologically. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Good Luck,
Jeff

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You people are like vultures.

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Why do you consider someone offering words of spiritual guidance a "vulture"?

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Because they always seem to hover about the sick and injured
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Old 09-18-2005, 05:21 PM
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Why do you consider someone offering words of spiritual guidance a "vulture"?

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Because they always seem to hover about the sick and injured

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Correct - but vultures intend to eat the sick and injured after they die. That's a world of difference from bringing a message of hope and life. And if the person doesn't want to hear it, he or she doesn't have to listen. What if the vulture is actually a caladrius? True, some people pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but most who overcome addiction learn to rely on a higher power. Why knock someone for saying that?
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:11 PM
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Why do you consider someone offering words of spiritual guidance a "vulture"?

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Because they always seem to hover about the sick and injured

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Correct - but vultures intend to eat the sick and injured after they die. That's a world of difference from bringing a message of hope and life. And if the person doesn't want to hear it, he or she doesn't have to listen. What if the vulture is actually a caladrius? True, some people pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but most who overcome addiction learn to rely on a higher power. Why knock someone for saying that?

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Only the weak-willed need believe in the higher power that religion preaches. The truth still eludes us all.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:09 PM
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Only the weak-willed need believe in the higher power that religion preaches. The truth still eludes us all.

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If this were true, then the vast majority of people in the world would be considered weak willed.

The truth is that a display of closed mindedness toward others views is a clear display of weakness [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:23 PM
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Only the weak-willed need believe in the higher power that religion preaches. The truth still eludes us all.

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If this were true, then the vast majority of people in the world would be considered weak willed.

The truth is that a display of closed mindedness toward others views is a clear display of weakness [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Religion has been a tool to shape the morals of a society, a means to explain the unexplained, and a place for those who are experiencing harsh times to find hope and relief.

The problem is this:

1. Religion has been severely mis-used throughout the ages, especially in producing a crop of close-minded individuals who apply their religious doctrine in a manner that infringes upon the free-will of others who do not share their views.

2. Religion has consistantly provided the wrong answers. I got into an arguement about religion with someone, who asked me "how do you explain miracles?"

My reply: "A few hundred years ago, people thought an eclipse was a miracle, and they thought that the mentally ill were infested with evil demons and spirits, because they didn't understand the science of it all"

I don't dispute that there cannot be a god, and if religion provides you with the hope you need to continue on in life, then so be it.

But in my belief, research and experience, religion typically holds us back from advancing, and provides for more intolerance in the world.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:54 PM
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We've been waiting for you!
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:14 PM
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I am the Chosen One, no one told you I was coming? Mother is Jewish, Father is Catholic........I'm Agnostic (used to be Atheist, but I cannot dispute the "possibility" of a "god" existing) I just need some proof, not the staple "god helps those who help themselves. God works in mysterious ways, blah blah blah"
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:58 PM
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1. Religion has been severely mis-used throughout the ages, especially in producing a crop of close-minded individuals who apply their religious doctrine in a manner that infringes upon the free-will of others who do not share their views.

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This is the realm of the fanatic minority mis-using religion as a rallying cry for their fanatacism and misguided beliefs. Not the realm of mainstream religious followers today.

Additionally, while I wouldn't know from personal experience, I am well acquinted with the fact that 12 step program (like GA and AA) use the concept of a "higher power" to aid in healing people. This technique has proven quite effective.
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