AQs headsup against a TAG reraise

[bozlax]

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After the river blank, I check intending to fold to a bet.

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Then what were you drawing to? The only card(s) that help your hand with respect to his range are Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]/Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (if he's playing AK, and afraid YOU'VE made the set). As it was played, bet the river, intending to fold to a raise.

And, no, this isn't WA/WB, before somebody suggests that.

[Badger]

I didn't have a good feeling about how to play this hand, so I pokerstoved it:

Board: As 8s 3s 7s

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.2476 % 25.16% 09.09% { AhQh }
Hand 2: 65.7524 % 56.66% 09.09% { JJ+, AQs+, KQs, AKo }

I think that's a pretty accurate 3-betting range from a tag.

Boz- why is this not WA/WB at the turn? If he's got a hand we're afraid of we're drawing dead. If he doesn't he's drawing to a 1 out to win.

What is the villain calling the flop with? I think he may have decided he's going to showdown with AK,AQ or he's calling with a spade draw- Probably Js at the worst.

The turn call seems he's getting fancy with the Ks, doesn't like his Qs or Js or is continuing his call down with an A. None of these are good situations for us.

So I'm with OP on c/f here. I think villain would have a hard time bluffing at this pot with a hand we beat. Boz- are you advocating b/f to try and take this pot down without a showdown against a better hand, hoping for a call from a worse hand, or not wanting to have to c/f against a bluff. Or something else?

[bozlax]

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Boz- why is this not WA/WB at the turn? If he's got a hand we're afraid of we're drawing dead. If he doesn't he's drawing to a 1 out to win.

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If Vill is anywhere near decent, we are nowhere near equally likely to be ahead as behind. Further, if we're ahead Villan hasn't enough outs to a full win and if we're behind we don't have enough outs to a full win.

[McNeese72]

Villain ended up having TT with the Ts.

Doc

[johnnytt]

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Villain ended up having TT with the Ts.

Doc

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This is kind of what I figured . . . I was thinking JJ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I dont think he calls turn bet with a hand that does not contain a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

However, I still have no idea how to play this hand.

[bozlax]

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Villain ended up having TT with the Ts.

Doc

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Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think.

[milesdyson]

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Villain ended up having TT with the Ts.

Doc

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Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think.

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do you seriously think he should play his hand any differently before the river where he should value bet?

[Shillx]

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Villain ended up having TT with the Ts.

Doc

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Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think.

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do you seriously think he should play his hand any differently before the river where he should value bet?

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Yeah the villian played this hand great until the river. Raising the turn is awful as it just lets you get away from hands like AQ with no [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. The river check is piss poor by him though.

[bozlax]

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Villain ended up having TT with the Ts.

Doc

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Either you have a strange table-image or your TAG isn't as TAG as you think.

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do you seriously think he should play his hand any differently before the river where he should value bet?

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Whoa! Where did I say that? (In fact, my first response says that the river should be bet/fold.)

Oh, wait, you mean Villan! The missing river value-bet was my point: it's a peculiar line for a "definite TAG" to take on the river.