.5/1 6 max PUSH???

[fishfather]

i don't want to push him out. i'm worried about a turn card killing my action. Villain seems very interested now and it is an action flop.

[CappyAA]

He could also be trying to pick off your c-bet or have Ax. You think Ax is calling a push on this board? Any decent player with AK will fold here to a push. Most players will probably fold A-rag to a push. Don't worry about a turn card killing your action. I'm putting around 1/2 of my stack in here and hoping for a call planning on pushing any turn. You can't just expect to stack him here simply b/c he min-raised the flop.

[fishfather]

I'm not thinking I'll stack him because of the minraise. I'm thinking flop texture is such that a push gets called by a lot of hands.

[CappyAA]

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I'm not thinking I'll stack him because of the minraise. I'm thinking flop texture is such that a push gets called by a lot of hands.

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A push will also make a lot of hands fold that might have called a regular flop 3-bet.

[DonkBluffer]

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I'm not thinking I'll stack him because of the minraise. I'm thinking flop texture is such that a push gets called by a lot of hands.

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A push will also make a lot of hands fold that might have called a regular flop 3-bet.

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Yeah, the power of pushing is fold equity, and we don't want fold equity here. You want hands that are drawing nearly dead to call. I'd 3bet enough to not give odds to the draws, but not too much so that he might call with Ax (if he's bad enough for that, a solid player would fold that of course.)

[fishfather]

So let's say I 3 bet but don't push all in and a spade falls on the turn--what non-flush hands that he has call if I push turn?

The power of pushing = fold-equity is only part of the equation.

If you can put villain on a range of 2nd best hands that will call a push, then better to do so when the getting is good, no?

[Maulik]

stack size problem

Raise an amount that will allow your turn lead to be 2/3 - 3/4 pot.

[JSH06]

Plenty of hands will call when a spade comes because they will feel committed to the pot.

[RubbleRobble]

i agree with 2paul2. Not only with his line, but with the fact that V. Marcill is quite hot.

[fishfather]

Given the latter I'll have to concede.