2/5 NL *Super Deep*

[mensame]

Here are some things to think about:
1. Why push all in if you have the nuts on the flop. granted the pot at the time was 500+ but if you were in the shoes of the villian would you not rather trap with trip K's?
2. What were you hoping for as far as a flop was concerned? quads? you hit your set and NOW you are afraid to push? doesn't make sense to me...You saw this chump was a chaser so even if you put him on AA or AKs he is on either top pair with nut flush potential or an overpair. You are still a big favourite to pull it out.

3. Has he pushed all in during that specific session? if so what is his history like? Does he push with top pair top kicker, does he bluff with crap? what situations did he push all in with? what did the boards look like? scare cards? flush drws??
4.Sounds like a familiar bully maniac type move to me! Call him.

Food for thought.

[yvesaint]

this is a dumb thread. you probably called and lost to A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[eurythmech]

I can't belive I am actually taking my time to post an argument for a call here, when it's such a bleeding easy call...

If you think your preflop reraise makes villain put you on a very strong hand preflop, why would he push the nuts?
Would he expect a call from aces?

[selurah]

My exact thinking after he pushed.

[selurah]

Saint,

Why a dumb thread? This is 500BB's deep. I think there is a legimate argument for getting away from this hand here. When he moved in it was still 500 BB's to me to call. I mean David would crap his pants with exasperation if I called here right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Triumph36]

Yes, there is a legitimate argument for getting away from this hand. It is as follows,

"I only have $2500 to my name and to call this will cost that much. Boy, wouldn't it suck if I lost this pot? Okay, I fold."

If you had a bankroll of $25K you would call this all day and not even think twice about it.

[Sunny Mehta]

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This is 500BB's deep. I think there is a legimate argument for getting away from this hand here.

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you keep saying 500BB's deep and it is extremely misleading....the amount that you all started the hand with is not nearly as important as the fact that the pot on the flop represents more than 20% of your stack....if you're gonna reraise with 33 preflop and create that huge a preflop pot, I cannot stress enough to you how big a mistake you're making by folding middle set on a non-straight non-flush board.....

[selurah]

coltrane,

My whole point of reraising preflop was to first, take it down, and second to build a pot when the 3 comes. I agree that this is my dream flop, and 9/10 I am gettin it in here smiling ear to ear. I'm only stessing the 500 BB thing b/c even after the preflop reraise I am still 5 buyins deep on the flop. I have to call 2500+ on the flop in a 500 max game. There are sometimes when even the best plans go horribly wrong. I planned to get it in on any flop that contained a 3, but the situation dictated that i rethink that plan.

[Triumph36]

That sounds like a terrible plan. You shouldn't even be playing 33 500 BBs deep, much less re-raising with it. But if you are re-raising with it, this is a pretty clear call. If you fold, it's because you're playing on scared money and you should get out of the game.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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You shouldn't even be playing 33 500 BBs deep, much less re-raising with it.

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Wow...this is just awful advice.