when to call a habitual pusher

[BLdSWtTRs]

a6 imo is an easy fold against Donut even with him cranking it up a few notches. Under the conditions you described aj, 88 or better or something close to that...

[samoleus]

BLD, I am quite surprised your requirements are as high as they are. When he has pushed four of my seven raises (and you have seen the way he hates me), what is the range of hands you put him on? ... You do agree that I should take any +EV spot right?

Consider of course that I may lose my chance to stack him if someone else does first.

[BLdSWtTRs]

Going back to my memory bank the worst thing I remember him with is aj in one of his preflop all in situations and then he's probably going all in 1 out of ten hands.

Maybe I should lower it a lil bit, but I can't see a6 being a good call at all. A lot of hands you will only be a slight favorite and a lot of hands you'll be more than a 2 to 1 dog.

[samoleus]

but he had pushed 4 out of 7 hands that I had raised - swearing at me the whole time. Do you really think that he just happened upon top 15 hands each time? Even though it is a small sample size, I think it is more likely that his standards are weaker.

[samoleus]

I meant 5 of 8 not 4 of 7 ...

[BLdSWtTRs]

Also there is some merit in waiting for a slightly better situation.

Figure the odds he will hit and run
The odds he will change his short term style

His all in standards were probably slightly worse than any ace, any pair or kq, kj, jq. You aren't looking good against that range.
In those 8 hands he was probably getting slightly better hands than normal.

[samoleus]

Hmmm - I think it would be a statistical anomaly (though not a great one) if he had the range you described to have had those hands 5 out of 8 times. I do think I made a slightly thin call with A-6 there which happened to be accurate that time. However, I thought his range was any ace, any two broadway, a medium king, and hands like 8-7 suited. Against that range I should call, right?

[soah]

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Hmmm - I think it would be a statistical anomaly (though not a great one) if he had the range you described to have had those hands 5 out of 8 times.

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It's also possible that he pushed with junk a few times and then happened to get a few reasonable hands. This guy doesn't sound too bright, but even stupid people realize that if you continue pushing every other hand, people are going to make a stand pretty quickly.

[Jman28]

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I do think I made a slightly thin call with A-6 there which happened to be accurate that time.

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The problem with A6o in a spot like this is that the results might give you the wrong impression. When you call with A6o and are 'correct', you are barely ahead. When 'wrong' you are often way behind. So you need to be 'correct' a high percentage of the time.

I'm sure you know this already, but just something to think about. You are ahead of the range you gave him though. In a vacuum, then it's clearly a correct call. As people are saying, you need to predict what he'll do when he wins/loses.