I'm the first one to admit this is a crazy call

[RiverDood]

Hmmmn.

You've got an M of about a bazillion. You're playing 93o out of position against a guy who could have any two -- because his play pretty much defies logical reads. You believe he's a much weaker player.

So you decide to build a pot with top pair, no kicker, and to keep building when it becomes second pair, no kicker, on a board with straight possibilities. When that turns into two pair for you, and only 6% of your chips are in the middle, you're ready to call his all-in for just about all your stack.

Lordy. It might work out OK for you. Or he might have a set of threes or 67/7J/JQ to make a straight. Or even a better two pair. In all those cases, your stack just evaporated.

Call me weak-tight, but with that many chips and that much sloppy play all around me, getting involved in this sort of hand -- at every street -- feels very rash. If you give Villain a little more time, he should make some much more obviously stupid play when you've got better cards, no?

[bruce]

Your logic makes sense except for the fact that he'll probably be busted before you get a chance to play a pot against him. Why not get the chips when you can? True, this is not what I would call and ideal situation, but based on reads calling can't be wrong, or too wrong. I might have found a check in me on the turn, though.

Bruce

[JohnFR]

Quite the contrary, that turn bet was made for the exact reason of NOT building a pot. I felt I could keep him from betting on the turn by leading, it would suck to check, then for him to put in a big bet that I can't call, especially when I feel that I am going to be ahead almost everytime here. And just for the record, I was going to lead the river if a face card, an A, a 7, a 3 or 9 didn't hit, I was going to check fold face cards, A and 7, and I was probably going to check call a 9 or 3 depending on my instincts.

[mic_check12]

I almost always complete when i have 100x too but 93o one of the hands i don't complete with. I play the rest of the hand the same way given your reads

[RiverDood]

So it's a blocking bet on the turn.

Tactically that makes perfect sense. It's kind of annoying to be at a situation, though, where 20 cards on the river leave us playing check/fold. And that's on a board that was "favorable" to our 93o starting hand.

I'm all in favor of completing with funky hands from the SB in the middle stages of a tournament when we can do so cheaply. But wouldn't 97o or 43o be more appealing? If we've got a straight draw, then there's a chance we can play confidently for a very big pot. Even allowing for the fact that we're playing against a loon, 93o just seems like a ticket to headaches.

That said, if he pushed with KK or AT or something that you beat, bravo to you! You've got more guts than I do.

[JohnFR]

he had KQo

[seke2]

And that's the beauty of reads. Here, your read got you a huge profit when by all rights you should have won a small pot.

[flopking]

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he had KQo

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brag post then?

the real question is if you could have called without pairing your sidecard....